# Any WWE fans in the audience? (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** boxing-wrestling-mma\
**Created:** [June 5, 2014, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124 "2014-06-05T15:34:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7843 "2018-12-04T15:19:26Z")

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I’m trying really really really hard not to, but I’m beginning to get frustrated over how boring RAW has become. It was always a “lol it’s the same matches!” argument that I could deal with, but after watching last night I realized that it’s literally just the same things over and over again. The straw that broke the camel’s back was when Bobby Roode was facing [del]Rockstar Spud[/del] Drake Maverick for the [del]X-division championship[/del] right to face AOP and thought “oh cool! We’ll see Maverick in the ring!”…only for it to last 2 seconds before it’s the same damn match for the last month.

Sigh…one of these days we’ll see new things, right?

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7844 "2018-12-04T18:53:05Z")

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sounds like were back to pre nwo/nitro raw…….

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7845 "2018-12-04T20:43:06Z")

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About the only good thing that I can say about this week’s episode is that it was better than last week’s episode.

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7846 "2018-12-05T02:27:10Z")

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I think I’m going to make a meme. It’s a picture of Randy Orton having Jeff Hardy is dire straits with the caption YOU GONNA GET YOUR EARLOBE RAPED.

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7847 "2018-12-05T02:33:25Z")

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Oooooohhhhh… Now I get it. When Jeff Hardy was in TNA, he showed up completely drunk and doped off his ass in his match vs Sting. He lost in 10 seconds.

TNA had real egg on their face as a result. Actually, that was par for the course with TNA.

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7848 "2018-12-05T13:34:18Z")

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Daniel Bryan is back to his preachy liberal activist angle. I like how they had Miz take credit for his attitude change and try to get Bryan to admit it, and then have Bryan partially agree, and then go on to rant about how he was proud to kick AJ Styles in the groin. Then he gets on commentary during Miz’s match with AJ, and eternal do-gooder Byron Saxton asks him what’s Birdie going to think about his actions, and Bryan replies “I hope my daughter kicks every man she sees in the groin.”

I seriously hope there’s a Total Bellas episode where a toddler Birdie kicks little boys in their pee pees.  
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and viewers thought they were sick of Nakamura’s ball shots…\*

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7849 "2018-12-05T15:28:01Z")

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The MizTV segment was fantastic, the rest was just fine.

I heard a good analogy today: The WWE treats its shows like concerts instead of a TV show. Bands always play the same set from show to show to give the audience what they want to hear because they didn’t see the last city’s show. So the WWE repeats matches over and over to give each new city that match. Unfortunatley for them, it’s a TV show and we all see it all the time

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7850 "2018-12-05T17:41:00Z")

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Tommy ‘Dynamite Kid’ Billington passed away on his 60th birthday. Fantastic, innovative performer, not a fantastic person (not that I knew him, but from what I’ve read).

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7851 "2018-12-05T17:51:37Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> The MizTV segment was fantastic, the rest was just fine.
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> I heard a good analogy today: The WWE treats its shows like concerts instead of a TV show. Bands always play the same set from show to show to give the audience what they want to hear because they didn’t see the last city’s show. So the WWE repeats matches over and over to give each new city that match. Unfortunatley for them, it’s a TV show and we all see it all the time

That working theory should have died with the advent of cable TV, especially when cable became the prime income source instead of _just_ a vehicle to sell house show tickets. The next town has already seen the match, and they’re not doing anything different. WWE needs to relearn how to elevate the mid-card, and how to protect performers they are envisioning for top card. Give people a reason to care about Lucha House Party versus The Revival, AND give us a reason why Lucha House rules make sense.

I liked the Smackdown opening, and I think Lynch/Flair/Asuka can steal TLC. It would be great if that closed the show.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7852 "2018-12-06T02:16:49Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> Tommy ‘Dynamite Kid’ Billington passed away on his 60th birthday. Fantastic, innovative performer, not a fantastic person (not that I knew him, but from what I’ve read).

yeah foley fought the bulldogs as a jobber team when wwe used wrestling schools for squash talent and kid stiffed him with a painful move and described him as ok but was someone who had a mean streak ……

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7853 "2018-12-06T16:58:26Z")

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The Network has Becky Lynch hosting a Superstar Picks segment of a match between Dynamite Kid and Tiger Mask. You can see how much those two influenced today’s high flyers.

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7854 "2018-12-07T15:11:26Z")

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Larry “The Axe” Hennig, father or Curt “Mr. Perfect” Hennig and grandfather of Curtis Axel (Joe Hennig), has passed away at 82. Only ever saw him on AWA TV, and maybe some early WWWF TV, towards the end of his active career. Mostly I remember him teaming with Curt after Curt had finished his initial jobber tour in WWWF.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7855 "2018-12-09T06:10:31Z")

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Breaking news tonight: Big Cass, who was supposed to wrestle at House of Hardcore tonight, has been rushed to the hospital after having an abrupt seizure backstage.

He hadn’t taken any bumps yet in the evening, and Tommy Dreamer says it wasn’t drug-related, but nothing else is known yet.

Hopefully he’s OK. Seizures are no fun.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7856 "2018-12-09T18:57:59Z")

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Jeez, that’s going to kill his career. Who’s going to want to book that kind of health risk?

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7857 "2018-12-09T20:33:14Z")

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Remembering a line from Mick Foley’s autobiography _Have a Nice Day,_ I checked out the Halftime Heat show from 1999 for the first time, watching the WWF Title match between The Rock and Mankind; it was an Empty Arena match, Falls Count Anywhere.

I can certainly see the point of the guy Mick talked to when it first aired: Those cinematic camera angles when Mankind lowered the forklift pallet down onto The Rock, completely took away my suspension of disbelief.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7858 "2018-12-10T02:31:50Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Breaking news tonight: Big Cass, who was supposed to wrestle at House of Hardcore tonight, has been rushed to the hospital after having an abrupt seizure backstage.
> 
> He hadn’t taken any bumps yet in the evening, and Tommy Dreamer says it wasn’t drug-related, but nothing else is known yet.
> 
> Hopefully he’s OK. Seizures are no fun.

Dreamer says Cass is doing better. Word is that he was already coherent when they loaded him into an ambulance, but no one was taking chances. 20 years ago, he’d have insisted on wrestling and everyone would have been OK with it. Things have improved.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Jeez, that’s going to kill his career. Who’s going to want to book that kind of health risk?

WWE knew Roman Reigns had suffered from leukemia. Until they (hopefully) figure out the cause, I’d call it 50/50.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7859 "2018-12-10T12:26:09Z")

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[A fan shows JR her tattoo of Vince McMahon](https://twitter.com/JRsBBQ/status/1071856037546856449/photo/1)

NSFW - she took the “kiss my ass club” literally

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7860 "2018-12-10T15:31:12Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> [A fan shows JR her tattoo of Vince McMahon](https://twitter.com/JRsBBQ/status/1071856037546856449/photo/1)
> 
> NSFW - she took the “kiss my ass club” literally

Um, you sure that’s a woman?

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7861 "2018-12-10T16:48:10Z")

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Oh my goodness… [you’re right](https://youtu.be/m1YBxlIvnO4). The guy actually showed Lawler the first version some time before.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7862 "2018-12-10T20:17:06Z")

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That video is funny, but I think the exchange the two of you had about the video was even funnier

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