# Any WWE fans in the audience? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** boxing-wrestling-mma\ **Created:** [June 5, 2014, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124 "2014-06-05T15:34:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 420
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8385 "2019-05-21T00:56:04Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > The Network is still worth it for NXT, but I think I’ll just watch the main brand PPVs the day after they air so I can skip ahead through Vince’s self-wanking. NXT is available on Hulu. But not the Takeovers, and they are always awesome. Watching next day to avoid commercials and explanatory promos is probably for the best. Has it been confirmed that the Mysterio/Joe match was ended early due to Joe’s bleeding? If so, too bad for both of them. …and Ricochet’s is now being jobbed out instead of protected. :mad: ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8386 "2019-05-21T15:55:29Z")
No talk of Ashley Massaro’s recent death? Honestly, I didn’t really watch wrestling when she was apparently active (mid 2000’s) so I’d never heard of her. But I recently read some of her allegations against the WWE and the US military overseas and it’s despicable if true. Without getting into the graphic details, she says Vince knew she was drugged and raped by military personnel on a base visit and he ordered her to keep it quiet. This was part of a lawsuit that I guess was dismissed, so I don’t know if something is missing. Did she recant? Was her story false? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8387 "2019-05-21T19:59:25Z")
I don’t remember her to be honest. I wasn’t interested in Tough Enough or Diva Searches or whatever side project they were pushing to attract Reality TV audiences. Miz is the only one who’s had a lasting career from those excursions. Otherwise, they were for the most part duds and worthless. ---
**Author:** ![LibSuperstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LibSuperstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibSuperstar)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8388 "2019-05-22T05:12:33Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Isn’t it ironic that AEW’s TV deal is with TNT, the same channel that said, “We’re cancelling WCW Monday Nitro, because we don’t see pro wrestling as a core part of our business strategy”, thus causing Fusient to back out of the sale? I wonder if WCW would still be around today if AOL/TimeWarner hadn’t done that. Reportedly there’s different people working there now. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8389 "2019-05-22T09:10:10Z")
[ > [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > No talk of Ashley Massaro’s recent death? Honestly, I didn’t really watch wrestling when she was apparently active (mid 2000’s) so I’d never heard of her. But I recently read some of her allegations against the WWE and the US military overseas and it’s despicable if true. Without getting into the graphic details, she says Vince knew she was drugged and raped by military personnel on a base visit and he ordered her to keep it quiet. This was part of a lawsuit that I guess was dismissed, so I don’t know if something is missing. Did she recant? Was her story false? > [@nightshadea](#): > > one of the last “divas” (before they started taking the women more seriously and ended the term ) passed on the other day from what’s now being called possible suicide > > [Former WWE Diva Ashley Massaro passes away](https://wrestling-edge.com/former-wwe-diva-ashley-massaro-passes-away/) > > other than a wm match did she do anything important? seems like once the contract was up she just became a manager before fading away …she was also involved in some sort of lawsuit that was skeezy against the wwe [Ashley Massaro apologized to WWE before her death](https://wrestling-edge.com/ashley-massaro-apologized-to-wwe-before-her-death/) quoted so you can read the links ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8390 "2019-05-22T12:05:37Z")
The drawback to Kofi being champ is that Xavier Woods and Big E have to act like wimps and get taken out “to a local medical facility” constantly. The 24/7 belt needs [Yakety Sax](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ) as a soundtrack. Toss in the occasional chick who gets her dress torn away as the mad chase goes by and you’ll have Benny Hill redux. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8391 "2019-05-23T04:05:18Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > The drawback to Kofi being champ is that Xavier Woods and Big E have to act like wimps and get taken out “to a local medical facility” constantly. Which is stupid, since I’d prefer them acting like Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli at Edoras. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8392 "2019-05-23T10:40:16Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > The 24/7 belt needs [Yakety Sax](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ) as a soundtrack. Toss in the occasional chick who gets her dress torn away as the mad chase goes by and you’ll have Benny Hill redux. gods there bringing that back? I remember when that was the hardcore belt and theyed use the gimmick prop up slow raw episodes with it changing hands 5 or 6 times among the mid-carders then back to the original holder … it got old really fast … ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8393 "2019-05-23T13:59:02Z")
I liked Crash Holly (RIP) during the Hardcore Belt angle, because he played the squeaky-clean babyface role to the point of absurdity while getting pummeled with plundah. At least the midcarders have something better to do than get beat up by Lars Sullivan. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8394 "2019-05-23T18:00:37Z")
> [@nightshadea](#): > > gods there bringing that back? I remember when that was the hardcore belt and theyed use the gimmick prop up slow raw episodes with it changing hands 5 or 6 times among the mid-carders then back to the original holder … it got old really fast … So did things like showing the title holder in a hospital bed, only for someone to rush in with a referee, pin him, and take the belt. A 24/7-style belt would be a good idea if (a) it was limited to scheduled matches, and (b) could not “officially” change hands in the middle of a match - you can have a “hot potato” match, but only the “champion” at the end of the time limit is considered to have won/retained the belt. Apparently, there’s a new twist; title changes can also appear on “social media,” so apparently we have to watch WWE’s Twitter feed. Somebody joked that a wrestler could reply to the champion’s tweet with “#Pin” and then a WWE referee could add “#OneTwoThree #New247Champion #StopCallingMeLilNaitch” to have the belt change hands. Prediction: there will be a 24/7 title change at some point during Fox’s NFL coverage the night before the network’s first Smackdown show. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8395 "2019-05-23T18:11:01Z")
[According to this](http://stillrealtous.com/backstage-news-on-who-pitched-the-idea-for-the-24-7-title/), it was actually USA network that came up with the 24/7 title. They had a list of ideas on how WWE could increase its ratings, and it was supposedly the least terrible one. Smapti, isn’t there a Japanese fed that does something similar, and goes as far as following their tour groups overseas? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8396 "2019-05-23T20:49:21Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > [URL=“[Backstage News On Who Pitched The Idea For The 24/7 Title](http://stillrealtous.com/backstage-news-on-who-pitched-the-idea-for-the-24-7-title/)”] > Smapti, isn’t there a Japanese fed that does something similar, and goes as far as following their tour groups overseas? That would be the DDT Ironman Heavymetalweight Championship. It’s strictly a comedy title, and at various times has been held by a ladder, audience members, schoolgirls, animals, Vince McMahon’s star on the Walk of Fame, and the belt itself. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8397 "2019-05-24T02:12:55Z")
The Ladder is actually a three-time champion. It’s also been held by notable wrestlers such as Rey Mysterio, Scott Hall, Matt Striker, Colt Cabana, Hornswoggle, and Tommy Dreamer. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8398 "2019-05-25T23:31:21Z")
Hangman Page has won the (very entertaining) Casino Battle Royale, and receives a match against the winner of Chris Jericho vs. Kenny Omega for the inaugural AEW world championship. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8399 "2019-05-25T23:34:06Z")
Broke down and got 2x or 0. Can’t watch it on Chrome, so I’m actually using Microsoft Edge for the first time. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8400 "2019-05-26T00:05:01Z")
Jesus god, what’s with this atonal Partridge family knockoff opening the show? They are definitely showing some growing pains here… ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8401 "2019-05-26T00:29:32Z")
That was an awesome 6-man refereed by the Ancient One Tilda Swenson. Christopher Danielson is a fucking genius, and glad to see he can still perform. The Oriental guys knew their shit. Weird to hear Jim Ross get outmatched in wrestling history by the other announcers. They are true wrestling nerds. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8402 "2019-05-26T00:35:25Z")
Awesome Kong is in AEW! ---
**Author:** ![LibSuperstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LibSuperstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibSuperstar)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8403 "2019-05-26T00:41:06Z")
I do remember reading about her being involved a week ago. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/8404 "2019-05-26T00:49:32Z")
Awesome Kong makes a surprise entrance, then works about 10% of the match. Wasn’t the yellow-clad chick in the Mae Young classic and NXT for a cup of coffee? Nice to hear commentary that doesn’t have Vince rewriting their words. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124.md?page=419) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124.md?page=421)