# Any WWE fans in the audience? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** boxing-wrestling-mma\ **Created:** [June 5, 2014, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124 "2014-06-05T15:34:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 474
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9470 "2021-07-21T16:30:49Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > I’m a WCW kid at heart and I don’t think Goldberg should be in any title run, but I get excited when I know he’s going to wrestle. Do I want him facing Lashley or someone for a belt? No. Do I want him in a tag match with someone or some kind of non-title match for pride or whatever? Bring it on. What made me crazy about the last time Goldberg wrestled was, he challenged Drew McIntyre, a face, because he felt he had no respect for the legends. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/P8A_niIW2Lc/maxresdefault.jpg "Goldberg challenges Drew McIntyre to Royal Rumble showdown: Raw, Jan. 4, 2021") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8A_niIW2Lc) Meanwhile, on the _very same episode_, we had Randy Orton doing this: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/FHdKAuVhzgU/maxresdefault.jpg "Randy Orton taunts Mark Henry: Raw, Jan. 4, 2021") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHdKAuVhzgU) And this: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/KWxrPh_1jh8/maxresdefault.jpg "Randy Orton confronts Big Show: Raw, Jan. 4, 2021") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWxrPh_1jh8) Goldberg was directing his “no respect” anger at the wrong person. He should have been going after Randy Orton. . It made him look disingenuous. He wanted the title, pure and simple. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9471 "2021-07-22T00:11:13Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Goldberg was directing his “no respect” anger at the wrong person. He should have been going after Randy Orton. . It made him look disingenuous. He wanted the title, pure and simple. You can’t blame Goldberg for that. He just says whatever they write for him and cashes his paycheck. This is also why you get shows with 3 surprise roll-up and 4 DQ decisions. No one is looking at the big, or even the 3-hour, picture. > [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Not only are just three ladies allowed to hold the belt, but they play hot potato with it so much that saying “X-time champion!” means nothing. I don’t want NXT-style 2 year runs, but somewhere in between. Strongly agree with the first sentiment. Disagree somewhat with the second. I think there is room for long title runs - not Sammartino/Backlund/Hogan length, but 2 years seems good - but not everyone can pull them off AND you would need smart, medium-to-long term booking to keep a steady stream of fresh contenders. And while I know TV is where the money is in modern wrestling, I would instantly, totally end hot-shotting the world titles, both men’s and women’s, every episode (although MitB cash-in would be an exception). IF you want to have a world title match outside of “PPV” (or what counts as PPV now), it should never happen on the same episode as the challenge, and televised world title matches should be marketed as exceptional for TV. But what do I know? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9472 "2021-07-22T02:22:11Z")
Bryan Danielson has reportedly signed with AEW. > **[Exclusive: Daniel Bryan Has Signed With AEW, Details On What He Asked For...](https://www.bodyslam.net/2021/07/21/exclusive-daniel-bryan-has-signed-with-aew-details-on-what-he-asked-for-from-company/)** > > Daniel Bryan’s last match with WWE took place back on April 30th on SmackDown when he lost to Roman Reigns in a “Championship vs. Career” match. It was then reported that Daniel Bryan’s WWE contract had expired on May 4th, 2021. There has been lots... ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9473 "2021-07-22T07:52:58Z")
Drove down to Dallas for Dynamite, had a lot of fun. Really glad to see Rey Fenix back. If you are, check out Elevation. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9474 "2021-07-22T15:16:11Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > You can’t blame Goldberg for that. He just says whatever they write for him and cashes his paycheck. Yes, thanks, I _am_ aware of how kayfabe works. Of course you do realize I mean it’s a failure of the writing. In any event, Goldberg vs. Orton would have been a bigger-money dream match than Goldberg vs. McIntyre, although I _do_ understand what they were trying to do there, building up McIntyre as a beast-slayer. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Yvd3aEsThbc/hqdefault.jpg "Its Still Real To Me Damn It!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvd3aEsThbc) ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9475 "2021-07-22T16:07:14Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Yes, thanks, I _am_ aware of how kayfabe works. Sorry, didn’t mean to insult. Just lamenting how whole shows, especially Raw but Smackdown and NXT also, aren’t written and booked as a single show but as individual segments and WWE keeps crapping on itself in the same 2-3 hour show because no one is willing to tell Vinnie Mac he is wearing no clothes. I can all but guarantee you that at least half of the writing staff saw the same disconnect you did, but no one wants to face VKM’s ire. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9476 "2021-07-23T15:18:53Z")
In any event, it makes Goldberg seem mercenary for just going after the champion regardless of who it is, from Bray Wyatt to Drew McIntyre to Bobby Lashley. Hell, he was allowed to SQUASH Wyatt. In any event, given that this is the second of two matches Goldberg has on his contract, it’s easy to predict how this one will go; I just wish they hadn’t blown those two matches on McIntyre and Lashley when there are potential dream matches like with Orton. (Not that Goldberg is good enough to make that any good). Hell, we could have had Cena vs. Goldberg at SummerSlam. Tell me that doesn’t put butts in the seats. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9477 "2021-07-23T16:15:21Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Hell, we could have had Cena vs. Goldberg at SummerSlam. Tell me that doesn’t put butts in the seats. It probably does, PLUS it keeps two part-timers who haven’t wrestled in ages out of the title picture, so win-win. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9478 "2021-07-24T10:30:50Z")
I will continue to watch Smackdown as long as Paul Heyman is on it. He completely stole the show from John Cena and mocked his music. He made Roman Reigns hot in a way Vince never could. He’s not just a fucking genius, he’s a fuck you genius. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9479 "2021-07-24T19:04:59Z")
Wrestling Meme Time Wrestling Marks: WWE is so annoying because all they do is let old-timers come back and take spots from the young guns. Also Wrestling Marks: OMG I’m so excited to see CM Punk and Daniel Bryan wrestle Chris Jericho and Christian! ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9480 "2021-07-24T19:21:40Z")
Ringside News [is reporting](https://www.ringsidenews.com/2021/07/23/cm-punk-signs-contract-with-aew/) that CM Punk has signed a contract with AEW. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9481 "2021-07-25T06:25:28Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Also Wrestling Marks: OMG I’m so excited to see CM Punk and Daniel Bryan wrestle Chris Jericho and Christian! For me, it’s more “OMG I’m so excited to see CM Punk and Bryan Danielson wrestle Kazuchika Okada and Hiroshi Tanahashi!”, because being in AEW would mean they’d be able to work NJPW as well, and either of the former against either of the latter would absolutely blow the roof off the Tokyo Dome. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9482 "2021-07-25T11:58:46Z")
I think it’d be hilarious if AEW debuts a new tag team called The Conquistadors (provided WWE doesn’t still hold the trademarks), a couple of short guys who wear gold masks and body suits who look like a jobber team, but who show amazing technical skill and counter every “guaranteed win” move thrown at them. Everybody knows they have to be Punk and DBD, but they never unmask or give promos. They even wear tinted contacts so nobody can identify them by eye color. They finally work their way up to a match with the Young Bucks for the AEW titles. The YBs use every play in the cheat book, and get the Good Brothers and their other stooges involved, when suddenly the camera points to a couple of fans in the audience who are Punk and DBD, just hanging out. The Conquistadors are actually Fenix and Penta in disguise and they use the distraction to roll up one of the Bucks for the win. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9483 "2021-07-26T01:41:07Z")
[Jeff Hardy has covid](https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2021/07/jeff-hardy-reportedly-tests-positive-for-covid-19/), which I guess explains his absence from WWE’s vaccination PSAs. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9484 "2021-07-27T11:36:27Z")
Eddie Kingston joins Paul Wight and Tony Schiavone on commentary in AEW Dark Elevation, and he’s really adding some bro-citement. They had a funny exchange during Luchasaurus’s match with Jora. The Hardy family was at ringside. One of them got up on the apron, and Luchasaurus grabbed him by the throat and chokeslammed him on the rest. Wight: AEW is where the big boys play! Kingside: Dude, that’s vicious! Schiavone: I’m having a PTSD moment here. For context: WCW thought they could capitalize on Mick Foley moving to WWE by showing clips of him jobbing in WCW matches and having Schiavone say “WCW: where the big boys play.” This spectacularly backfired as Foley went on to strike it huge in WWE. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9485 "2021-07-28T11:23:36Z")
**AEW Dark Taz/Excalibur moment of the day** Big Swole vs Diamante Taz: Both these ladies, they got a lot in common. Their styles are similar, you know, they got that tough, physical style, both got ink on their bodies, they got a lot in common, they’re tough girls. Ex: A lot of confidence and attitude. Taz: Both from Florida I believe? Right? Ex: Yeah. Diamante is from Miami, and Big Swole is from… Ex: Clearwater. Taz: That’s right. See, I don’t try to try over the broadcast like other people do. Ex: I’m sitting right here, Taz. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9486 "2021-07-30T09:54:06Z")
is it true cm punk is in aew? ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9487 "2021-07-30T09:56:50Z")
I’ve heard the same rumors, but I’ll believe it when I see it. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9488 "2021-07-30T15:50:04Z")
The rumor is that Punk will debut in Chicago. Whether or not this is true is TBD. It is all but guaranteed Chicago sells out on the rumor, and there might be blowback if it isn’t true. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/9489 "2021-07-31T17:10:01Z")
WWE [has released](https://www.wwe.com/article/bray-wyatt-released) three-time world champion Bray Wyatt. What the fuck is _with_ this company? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124.md?page=473) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124.md?page=475)