# Anybody else excited about "Kill Bill"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 25, 2003, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770 "2003-09-25T15:45:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/1 "2003-09-25T15:45:42Z")
I’m really looking forward to Tarentino’s (sp?) new flick Kill Bill. I haven’t seen any threads, and I can search for neither “kill” nor “bill”. I’m a little suprised that I haven’t heard more talk about it. Am I the only one who’s excited about it? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/2 "2003-09-25T15:57:37Z")
Correction, new flick **s**. He’s releasing it in two volumes. Yeah, I’m pretty pumped about it. I haven’t heard a lot about it, but I really don’t want to. I wanna be completely suprised. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/3 "2003-09-25T16:11:38Z")
The trailer I saw took pains to make the movie look exactly as much like _Matrix Reloaded_ as humanly possible. Whether this fairly reflects the movie or not, I think we now know what audience they’re going after. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/4 "2003-09-25T16:24:45Z")
I _hope_ it’s not like the trailer. I’m a fan of all things Tarentino and I think Uma Thurman is a damn sexy woman but I don’t want a Jackie Chan movie. ---
**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/5 "2003-09-25T17:25:15Z")
The two volume format is potentially cool. It could be a whole different structure than we’re used to. On the other hand, it could be an excuse for an editless wank fest. I’ll reserve judgement until I see the move. But yes, I am excited to see it. ---
**Author:** ![Murcielago](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Murcielago](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Murcielago)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/6 "2003-09-25T17:26:22Z")
Have not seen enough to get a feel for the movie. The first thing that struck me is the outfit Thurman is wearing. It’s obviously styled after what Bruce Lee wore in the fight scenes pillaged to produce the awful _Game of Death_. Interesting move, considering Lee hated the unreal martial arts sequences of the Hong Kong movie industry which are now being imitated in American films. I’m also a Tarantino fan, I hope he has taken the time to create a story and some characters and not something like _Matrix Reloaded_. ---
**Author:** ![cletus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@cletus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cletus)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/7 "2003-09-25T17:29:48Z")
Is there any particular reason the film is split in two? ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/8 "2003-09-25T17:53:38Z")
I heard that the original script ran something like 242 pages. The usual rule of thumb is one page of script per minute of screen time. That implied a 4-hour movie. Rather than cut the script Tarantino got permission from the studio bosses to film the whole thing and release it in two parts. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/9 "2003-09-25T17:56:14Z")
I didn’t realize it was a two-parter; this is interesting news. I thought it was just a clever affectation along the lines of **History of the World, Part 1**. ---
**Author:** ![panamajack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@panamajack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panamajack)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/10 "2003-09-25T18:05:37Z")
I really can’t tell from the previews, but it appears that Tarentino is either making a parody of recent action films in the movie itself or the trailers are designed to look like that. I vote for the movie, unless none of those scenes are actually in the movie. At least, I hope it’s meant to be a parody. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/11 "2003-09-25T18:09:55Z")
I swear, when I first saw the trailer, the action was so overblown and stupid looking that I thought they’d say **“We’re kidding, the film is nothing like this!”** But they didn’t… ---
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/12 "2003-09-25T18:10:23Z")
I’m sure I’ll see it, but I can’t say it’s high on my list of films I’m really looking forward to. While I loved _Reservoir Dogs_, I thought _Pulp Fiction_ was only all right, and I couldn’t get into _Jackie Brown_ at all (yes, I know what the point of the movie was, that doesn’t make me enjoy it any more). What little I know of _Kill Bill_ suggests that it has the potential to be a really good movie, but I’ve known Tarantino to fuck up a good thing before, so… _shrugs_ ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/13 "2003-09-25T18:25:37Z")
It’s got kung fu, and a lot of classic kung fu stars from across Asia. I must see! ---
**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/14 "2003-09-25T18:27:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by panamajack \* > \*\*At least, I hope it’s meant to be a parody. \*\* Well, he did take the completely tired and cliche gangster genre and produce two fairly amazing movies in it. (Not to mention writing _True Romance_.) I was kind of thinking that it would be nice to have an action movie that didn’t completely suck. ---
**Author:** ![Velma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/85e7bf/32.png) [@Velma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velma)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/15 "2003-09-25T18:42:07Z")
I saw in interview with Tarantino recently where he said he makes the movies he always wanted to see as a child but didn’t exist. _Reservoir Dogs_ was his idea of what a heist movie should be, for example. When _Kill Bill_ was compared to _Charlie’s Angels_ he said that it yes, he supposed it could be the _Charlie’s Angels_ episode he always wanted to see. Lucy Liu was shown in a bit saying it was “nothing like” the _Charlie’s Angels_ movie, though. (She’s in both). So it seems this could be a very different movie than his previous ones. ---
**Author:** ![greck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ab992/32.png) [@greck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/greck)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/16 "2003-09-25T18:52:22Z")
I’m interested to see what’s been cooking in Tarantino’s brain for the past few years. I wonder if, since so many people have copied things he brought to filmmaking, if he’s got something novel to bring for this one. Cause if not, it’s gonna look pretty stale. So I’m interested, if not excited. ---
**Author:** ![DaddyTimesTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f07891/32.png) [@DaddyTimesTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaddyTimesTwo)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/17 "2003-09-25T18:55:42Z")
**cletus** the movie Tarantino wanted to release was 3 hours long or something and he wouldn’t edit it down. So somehow it was decided that relieasing it as two movies was a better idea. I’m not sure what I think about it. I’ve liked all of QT films thus far, but he’s taken an awful long time with this one which has raised expectations, mine, at least. It had better be _ **good** _, damn it. On preview I see that my lost internet connection prevented me from answering **cletus** ’ questio first. And still I’m posting it. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![DaddyTimesTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f07891/32.png) [@DaddyTimesTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaddyTimesTwo)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/18 "2003-09-25T19:03:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Avalonian \* > \*\*… and I couldn’t get into _Jackie Brown_ at all (yes, I know what the point of the movie was, that doesn’t make me enjoy it any more). > \*\* It’s been a while since I’ve seen JB, I’m not sure what you’re getting at here. Care to elaborate? ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/19 "2003-09-25T19:19:48Z")
Well, my perspective is a bit different from most of the folks here since I believe **Jackie Brown** to be Tarantino’s best movie, surpassing even **Pulp Fiction** (which is a masterpiece of cinema itself). Tarantino lives and breathes genre films–he has made his vampire movie ( **From Dusk Til Dawn** , directed by Robert Rodriguez from Tarantino’s script); his caper movie ( **True Romance** ); his gangster movie ( **Pulp Fiction** ); and his 70’s blaxpoitation movie ( **Jackie Brown** ). Now he is releasing his tribute to the martial arts films of Bruce Lee and Sonny Chiba. It. Is. Going. To. Rock. It will have interesting dialogue, terrific fight scenes, outstanding performances, and it will resurrect David Carradine’s career. And it has Uma Thurman and Lucy Liu, so you straight boys should be lining up at the box office right now. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/20 "2003-09-25T19:26:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Velma \* > \*\* Lucy Liu was shown in a bit saying it was “nothing like” the _Charlie’s Angels_ movie, though. (She’s in both). > \*\* Yeah, but what’s she going to say? “Um, this movie is exactly like Charlie’s Angels.” 😛 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770.md?page=2)