# Anybody else excited about "Kill Bill"?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 25, 2003, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770 "2003-09-25T15:45:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![karomon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@karomon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/karomon)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/41 "2003-09-26T10:25:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by elfkin477 \*  
> \*\*How do you write two hundred and forty-two pages of “ok, so she kicks him, fights her, then a whole bunch of nijas attack…” I hope they’ll show another commercial at some point that shows something about the plot. If there is one. \*\*

The trailer I saw contained a little more of the plot than the commercials. Apparently, Uma is one of a team of assasins working for a guy whose name I forget … I think it rhymed with “spill”. She falls in love (or something) with a guy and quits the murder-for-hire gig. On her wedding day, her old coworkers come back to off her, presumably killing her would-be husband in the process. And then there’s tons and tons of revenge of the most cliched kind. Some of it happens in Japan. Uma asserts her kickassity by breaking a blubbering Japanese schoolboy’s phallic sword in half, sending him running, tears streaming down his face. That was really weird.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/42 "2003-09-26T11:14:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Gangster Octopus \*  
> \*\*I’m more looking forward to the latest movie from the Coen Bros. coming out the same day. \*\*

The Coens and Tarantino are on my “OD” list (“Opening Day, Hell or High Water”), so I’ll be seeing both films October 10 (with a long dinner in between). I haven’t decided which one will come first. Probably **Intolerable Cruelty** since I like the Coens a bit more than Tarantino.

While I’d like to see the whole thing in one sitting, I do like the 2 movies idea. Once I see a movie from my OD list, I know it’s probably going to be a couple or more years before I’ll see another movie from that director. It’ll be nice knowing that I’ll be able to see another Tarantino film in just 4 months. I’ll be able to see the whole thing in one sitting when it comes out on DVD.

**Jackie Brown** is my favorite Tarantino film too, and I’ve never seen a 70’s Blaxploitation flick. I love all his movies though. Like the Coens and a few other directors, he’s already proved to me that he can Do No Wrong. I know there’s always a first time, but if they haven’t disappointed me yet, chances are good that they probably won’t in the future.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/43 "2003-09-26T12:12:27Z")

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Three words:  
Babes with blades!  
-Brian

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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/44 "2003-09-26T12:14:37Z")

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I love any halfway decent martial arts movie.

I love Tarantinos dialogue and plotting.

This is going to kick so much ass.  
It comes out on my birthday.  
Best present ever.

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**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/45 "2003-09-26T14:50:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by N9IWP \*  
> **Three words:  
> Babes with blades!**

Exactly!

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2003, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/46 "2003-10-04T05:05:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by widdershins \*  
> \*\ ***elfkin477** , I haven’t read the script for the movies, but if I remember from his earlier movies Tarantino often writes detailed descriptions of the scenes, casting choices, characters’ wardrobe, background music, etc. Considering the sheer number of homages and tributes these films are apparently packed with (notice how prominent the Bruce Lee-style yellow track suit Uma Thurman wears is, as has already been mentioned) I can see how the script would get that big. \*\*

But none of that would lead to a longer movie, would it? Bigger budget, but not longer.

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**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2003, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/47 "2003-10-04T09:42:57Z")

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I’m looking forward to **Kill Bill**. I love everything Tarantino has directed himself, except for **Four Rooms** , which I thought was a mess and Tarantino’s segment was the weakest.

I don’t understand why so many Tarantino fans didn’t like **Jackie Brown**. I thought it was his most confident and mature film to date and Robert Forster and Pam Grier were worth the price of admission alone.

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2003, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/48 "2003-10-04T11:55:41Z")

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I’ve liked all that he’s done, but it’s been a while since he directed a movie. What if he’s just not as edgy as he used to be?

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2003, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/49 "2003-10-04T17:45:36Z")

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I also thought **Jackie Brown** was a very good movie.

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**Author:** ![Fionn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Fionn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fionn)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2003, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/50 "2003-10-04T18:18:58Z")

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I’m going to be there opening day.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2003, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/51 "2003-10-04T19:26:37Z")

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Having read the script, I don’t think the trailer does the film justice. The storytelling is a bit more imaginative that the trailers would have you believe.

It’s going to be up for Oscars next year, and gobear is right; this will do for David Carradine what “Pulp Fiction” did for John Travolta.

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**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2003, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/52 "2003-10-04T21:59:05Z")

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Glad you brought that up, **RickJay** , because a friend of mine who’s not a huge Tarantino fan read the script over a year ago and absolutely loved it. I never read scripts before watching the movie (unless it’s something that’ll never get filmed, like David Lynch’s _One Salive Bubble_ and _Ronnie Rocket_) because I hate spoilers, but that got me pretty excited.

I’m not saying this because of anything posted on this thread, but I’m really stunned by how chic Tarantino bashing has become since he took a break after **Jackie Brown**. There was a ridiculous article on the Guardian website that actually said his movies were _never_ very good to begin with and that Tarantino just basically blinded everyone with hype. What bullshit! Even if you don’t like his last movie or think he’s dried up, **Pulp Fiction** is a classic regardless of how many times it’s been ripped off.

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**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2003, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/53 "2003-10-04T23:41:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rainbowthief \*  
> **There was a ridiculous article on the Guardian website that actually said his movies were _never_ very good to begin with and that Tarantino just basically blinded everyone with hype.**

:rolleyes: He deserves an effing medal for _Resevoir Dogs_ alone.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2003, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/54 "2003-10-05T00:03:21Z")

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Like **Equipoise** , I’m there opening weekend, but I’ll probably give place of preference to the Coen Bros film.

Re the “grindhouse” angle: The way I understand it, _Kill Bill_ is divided into chapters. Rather than trying to make the whole movie a weird melange of kung fu + samurai + western + fill-in-the-blanks-ploitation, each chapter, supposedly, has its own look and feel, as an homage to each various genre. The yellow Game of Death jumpsuit has already been pointed out; the preview also shows a clip of Uma getting trained by a classic “old kung fu master” character (who’s being played by someone who will be familiar to fans of Shaw Bros movies in the 1970s).

As a fan of these genres, I can’t wait. I definitely understand that it may not appeal to the mainstream (how many people have seen stuff like _One-Armed Swordsman_, really?), but I think it’ll be a film-geek orgasm of a movie. (I’ve heard a rumor there’s a _Wrath of Khan_ reference in like the first ten minutes.)

And besides, say what you will about Tarantino’s indulgent dialogue and occasionally self-conscious camera, the man can construct a soundtrack like nobody else. The music alone will be worth the ticket price.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/55 "2003-10-06T13:53:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fionn \*  
> \*\*I’m going to be there opening day. \*\*

You and me, both. I’m going to try to catch the first showing, either at the Gateway, or the Tinseltown near my house.

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**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/56 "2003-10-06T16:07:28Z")

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**Lightnin’:** I see you’re in Austin. Is that the Tinseltown at Stassney Lane? I was a manager there about 5 years ago.

I saw _Kill Bill_ at a press screening last Wednesday and am trying to write up a semi-coherent review thingy. For now, let me just say that I totally flipped for it and can’t wait to see it again opening night. I’m dying to talk about it but nobody around me has seen it yet!

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**Author:** ![kasuo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8c91f0/32.png) [@kasuo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kasuo)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/57 "2003-10-06T16:44:23Z")

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Is there any word as to whether or not **Kill Bill** will have advance tickets avail for sale online? I’ve been checking [movietickets.com](http://movietickets.com) and they don’t seem to have any tickets avail for Friday.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/58 "2003-10-06T18:47:56Z")

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RickJay, how did you get a copy of the script? And can I get one?

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**Author:** ![SuperNova](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@SuperNova](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperNova)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/59 "2003-10-06T20:44:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RickJay \*  
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> It’s going to be up for Oscars next year, and gobear is right; this will do for David Carradine what “Pulp Fiction” did for John Travolta. \*\*

Except David Carradine is pretty old already. He’s [He’s almost 70 years old.](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001016/) Travolta was probably only like 40 when Pulp Fiction was made.

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**Author:** ![widdershins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f0a364/32.png) [@widdershins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/widdershins)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2003, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-else-excited-about-kill-bill/203770/60 "2003-10-06T21:48:03Z")

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I said in a thread about potential comebacks that Carradine might bounce back briefly, but return to straigh-to-video limbo.

Rather than Travolta, Carradine might get a career revival like Robert Forster did after _Jackie Brown_, resulting in a better choice of supporting roles in films and TV work and a greater appreciation for him overall.

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