# Anybody Ever Really Use This Torture?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-ever-really-use-this-torture/145500>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [December 29, 2002, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-ever-really-use-this-torture/145500 "2002-12-29T13:42:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Scruloose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@Scruloose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scruloose)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2002, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-ever-really-use-this-torture/145500/41 "2002-12-31T18:38:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BurnMeUp \*  
> \*\*ACtually it’s fairly well documented that at the beginning of WWII the Japanese had their own Internment camps in Mongolia where the performed “experements” like seeing how long someone could withstand the elements by stripping them bare standing them in water outside ion the snow… or completely freezing a limb (like an arm) and then snashing the frozen appendage.
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> This was well documented in Men Behind the Sun and The Rape of Nanking. \*\*

Those types of experiments are also documented in Shirer’s book. Simply amazing that humans have the capacity to do this type of thing.

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**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2002, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-ever-really-use-this-torture/145500/42 "2002-12-31T18:44:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by zigaretten \*  
> _Hidden Horrors, Japanese War Crimes in World War II_ by Yuki Tanaka

For some reason, an actual cite seems inappropriate in this thread.

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**Author:** ![X\_Slayer\_ALE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/bbe5ce/32.png) [@X\_Slayer\_ALE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/X_Slayer_ALE)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2002, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-ever-really-use-this-torture/145500/43 "2002-12-31T18:49:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BurnMeUp \*  
> \*\*ACtually it’s fairly well documented that at the beginning of WWII the Japanese had their own Internment camps in Mongolia where the performed “experements” like seeing how long someone could withstand the elements by stripping them bare standing them in water outside ion the snow… or completely freezing a limb (like an arm) and then snashing the frozen appendage.
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> This was well documented in Men Behind the Sun and The Rape of Nanking. \*\*

Well Yah, I understand all of that. I am not doubting the veracity of documentated Japanese cruelty in world war 2. I am doubting the actual torture technique.

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**Author:** ![X\_Slayer\_ALE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/bbe5ce/32.png) [@X\_Slayer\_ALE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/X_Slayer_ALE)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2002, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-ever-really-use-this-torture/145500/44 "2002-12-31T18:52:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by censored \*  
> \*\*the iraqis use a torture where they hook up electrodes to one’s penis…but that’s just a variation on the electricity-to-body-part theme 😉 \*\*

OK, have you seen the claws that are used to charge batteries with? They can save their electricty! Those things alone look painful.

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**Author:** ![merrily](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@merrily](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/merrily)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2002, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-ever-really-use-this-torture/145500/45 "2002-12-31T21:13:24Z")

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I seem to remember the torture from the OP as being in Michener’s \<b\>The Bridge at Andou\</b\>, which was about the Hungarian uprising in 1956. I no longer have the book, but there was one chapter about what the Soviets did to the protestors in prison, and this was one of them. They mentioned having to hold the guy down when he peed.

Does anybody have this book, to confirm? Not that Michener is necessarily a primary source, mind you.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2002, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-ever-really-use-this-torture/145500/46 "2002-12-31T22:31:17Z")

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> They mentioned having to hold the guy down when he peed.

why? I would think the damage was already done.

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2003, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-ever-really-use-this-torture/145500/47 "2003-01-01T00:07:12Z")

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Are there any unanswered General Questions remaining in this thread?

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2003, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-ever-really-use-this-torture/145500/48 "2003-01-01T01:13:04Z")

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yes, I still have one

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> why? I would think the damage was already done.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2003, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-ever-really-use-this-torture/145500/49 "2003-01-01T04:51:46Z")

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I’m still wondering why a school teacher would go out of his way to talk to a student about insertions up penises, but I’m not sure I want to hear the answer.

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**Author:** ![Gairloch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d2c977/32.png) [@Gairloch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gairloch)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2003, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-ever-really-use-this-torture/145500/50 "2003-01-01T07:15:10Z")

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And there is still the question of how many visionaries, anticipating the modern trend towards painful self-mutilation, volunteered, thus inadvertantly becoming the avant-garde.

Gairloch

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2003, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-ever-really-use-this-torture/145500/51 "2003-01-01T13:49:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Muffin \*  
> \*\*I’m still wondering why a school teacher would go out of his way to talk to a student about insertions up penises, but I’m not sure I want to hear the answer. \*\*

We were discussing the Bataan Death March and this was supposedly used on a US soldier who tried to escape.

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**Author:** ![Zagadka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zagadka/32/7272_2.png) [@Zagadka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zagadka)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2003, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-ever-really-use-this-torture/145500/52 "2003-01-01T14:16:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tuckerfan \*  
> \*\*… my history teacher claimed that … \*\*

I had a history teacher who claimed to have been at Pearl Harbor and seen the Japanese planes flying overhead, and described it in graphic detail.

This was, oh, 1992.

He was 36 years old.

Seriously, parents should be MUCH more concerned about the people they leave their children with all day.

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