# Anybody follow or admire specific songwriters?

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**Created:** [June 10, 2015, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-follow-or-admire-specific-songwriters/722169 "2015-06-10T14:52:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
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I’ve come to appreciate Bob McDill’s amazing career. 31 number one hits. I don’t know if thats a record or not. But its one heck of an achievement.

I bought a autographed copy of[his songbook](http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODk1WDEwNjU=/z/gFMAAOxyTMdTOxyh/$_35.JPG). A vintage item from the late 80’s and only $25. Cheap enough. There were several songs that I wanted to learn and perform. Its unusual to find a songwriter’s songbook. Most of my songbooks are by the performing artist. Bread, Bob Seger, Jim Croce, Linda Ronstadt an so on. I get a lot of vintage songbooks cheap. Theres always a couple songs in each that I want to eventually learn.

But then I started really looking at Bob McDill’s songs. All hits that I recognized but never knew he wrote. I put together a mp3 playlist of many of those songs that I owned. Hearing his body of work just blew me away. I really like how his songs tell a great story but its not at the expense of the music. They are still very beautiful melodies and the three I’ve learned so far, are quite fun to sing and play on my guitar.

Who are some other great songwriters that I should check out?

> **[Bob McDill](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_McDill)**
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> Robert Lee McDill (born April 4, 1944) is a retired American songwriter, active from the 1960s until 2000. During his career he wrote or co-wrote 31 number one country hits. His songs were also recorded by popular artists of the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s, including The Grateful Dead, Ray Charles, Joe Cocker, Anne Murray, and B. J. Thomas. His music credits in film include Primary Colors, The Thing Called Love, Texasville, and the documentary Grizzly Man. In addition to four Grammy nominations McD...

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> Robert Lee “Bob” McDill (born April 4, 1944 in Walden (near Beaumont), Texas[1]) is a retired American songwriter. Active from the 1960s until 2000, he has written many songs for country music artists, including 31 number one hits,[1] as well as songs for Ray Charles, Joe Cocker, Anne Murray, Juice Newton and other popular artists. In addition to four Grammy nominations, McDill has received Songwriter of the Year awards from Broadcast Music Incorporated, the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers, and the Nashville Songwriters Association International.[2] In October, 2012, he was awarded ASCAP’s Golden Note Award in recognition of his “extraordinary place in American popular music.”[3][4]

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Jimmy Webb comes to mind.

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Yes, Jimmy Web is one of the legendary songwriters. Wrote many many hits.

> **[Jimmy Webb](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Webb)**
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> Jimmy Layne Webb (born August 15, 1946) is an American songwriter, composer, and singer. He achieved success at an early age, winning the Grammy Award for Song of the Year at the age of 21. During his career, he established himself as one of America's most successful and honored songwriter/composers. 
> Webb has written numerous platinum-selling songs, including "Up, Up and Away", "By the Time I Get to Phoenix", "MacArthur Park", "Wichita Lineman", "Worst That Could Happen", "Galveston" and "All...

Paul Overstreet is both a songwriter and a performing artist. Wrote major hits for Randy Travis, Blake Shelton, and Keith Whitley, The Judds and Kenny Chesney. He’s recorded 10 studio albums and gotten a handful of singles in the top 10, but most of his success has been in songwriting.

> **[Paul Overstreet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Overstreet)**
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> Paul Lester Overstreet (born March 17, 1955) is an American country music singer and songwriter. He began his singing career in 1982 with a self-titled album on RCA Records Nashville. From 1986 to 1987, he was a vocalist in the trio S-K-O (Schuyler, Knobloch & Overstreet), in which he had a number-one single on the Billboard Hot Country Songs charts with "Baby's Got a New Baby". After leaving S-K-O he resumed a solo career, charting a second number-one single alongside Paul Davis and Tanya Tuck...

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> During his songwriting career, primarily in the Country genre, Overstreet has written or co-written 27 Top Ten songs. During this time, he has won two Grammy Awards and also won ACM and CMA Song of the Year Awards (1987 and 1988). Overstreet was named the BMI Songwriter of the Year five straight years, from 1987–91,

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Paul Simon, no doubt.

\*\*\*\*\*We sailed up a river wide as a sea  
And slept on the banks  
On the leaves of a banyan tree  
And all of these spirit voices rule the night

Some stories are magical, meant to be sung  
Songs from the mouth of the river  
When the world was young  
And all of these spirit voices rule the night

By moon  
We walk  
To the brujo’s door  
Along a path of river stones  
Women with their nursing children  
Seated on the floor  
We join the fevers  
And the broken bones

The candlelight flickers  
The falcon calls  
A lime-green lizard scuttles down the cabin wall  
And all of these spirit voices  
Sing rainwater, seawater  
River water, holy water  
Wrap this child in mercy – heal her  
Heaven’s only daughter  
All of these spirit voices rule the night

My hands were numb  
And my feet were lead  
I drank a cup of herbal brew  
Then the sweetness in the air  
Combined with the lightness in my head  
And I heard the jungle breathing in the bamboo

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Aye, lots of them.

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Burt Bacharach never fails to amaze me for the songs he’s written.

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Bob Dylan, Tom Waits, and oddly enough Kris Kristofferson are all great poets IMHO.

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Jeff Barry. An unknown name to most, because he was never a performer, but one of, if not _the,_ most prolific pop songwriters of all time.

There’s a listing of his songs at [the Songwriters Hall of Fame](http://songwritershalloffame.org/index.php/songs/C128/P0/) page. I’m not sure it’s complete, but it runs to 13 pages. You’d recognize about a zillion of them.

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-follow-or-admire-specific-songwriters/722169/9 "2015-06-11T17:03:12Z")

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Joni Mitchel and Carole King

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Joni Mitchel and Carole King

Carole King was a Brill Building stablemate of Jeff Barry’s in the early 60s. Before her successful singer/songwriter career, she also wrote a bunch of wonderful bubblegum hits, among them “Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow.”

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-follow-or-admire-specific-songwriters/722169/11 "2015-06-11T17:22:42Z")

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I follow Jason Isbell.

“Elephant”  
She said “Andy, you’re better than your past”  
Winked at me and drained her glass  
Cross-legged on a barstool, like nobody sits anymore  
She said “Andy you’re taking me home”  
But I knew she planned to sleep alone  
I’d carry her to bed, sweep up the hair from her floor

If I’d fucked her before she got sick I’d never hear the end of it  
She don’t have the spirit for that now  
We just drink our drinks and laugh out loud  
And bitch about the weekend crowd  
And try to ignore the elephant somehow  
Somehow

She said “Andy, you crack me up”  
Seagram’s in a coffee cup  
Sharecropper eyes, and the hair almost all gone  
When she was drunk, she made cancer jokes  
Made up her own doctors’ notes  
Surrounded by her family, I saw that she was dying alone

But I’d sing her classic country songs and she’d get high and sing along  
She don’t have a voice to sing with now  
We burn these joints in effigy and cry about what we used to be  
And try to ignore the elephant somehow, somehow

I’ve buried her a thousand times, given up my place in line  
But I don’t give a damn about that now  
There’s one thing that’s real clear to me: No one dies with dignity  
We just try to ignore the elephant somehow  
We just try to ignore the elephant somehow  
We just try to ignore the elephant somehow  
Somehow  
Somehow

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> [@Saintly\_Loser](#):
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> … among them “Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow.”

I hadn’t remembered this as a pop hit by some else, because she does s beautiful ballad version on _Tapestry_. She also wrote a lot of hits with Gerry Goffin.

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There are many of them.

Johnny Mercer  
Alan and Marilyn Bergman  
Ira Gershwin

…just off the top of my head.

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I have to throw Neil Young’s name in for consideration. I don’t think everything he’s done is genius, by any means, but at his best, he’s an excellent songwriter.

Also, I’m not a country music fan, so I may be all wet here, but I think Dolly Parton has also done some wonderful songs.

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Joni Mitchell  
Pete Townsend  
Frank Zappa

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JJ Cale  
Leonard Cohen  
Guy Clark  
Townes Van Zandt

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Are we going to find that 1% of songwriters produce 99% of the hits? Does that mean anything? 😛

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What’s the largest selling album with all the songs written by one person? Meat Loaf’s Bat Out of Hell, that’s what. All the songs were written by one of my favorites Jim Steinman.

And he penned a little tune called Annie Christmas 😃

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> What’s the largest selling album with all the songs written by one person? Meat Loaf’s Bat Out of Hell, that’s what. All the songs were written by one of my favorites Jim Steinman.
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> And he penned a little tune called Annie Christmas 😃

I woulda guessed Carole King’s _Tapestry_, but I’m not 100% certain that she wrote every song. But she did sing them all herself, which is more than your Mr. hoity toity Steinman can claim. 🙂

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Nope.

> [@wikipedia](#):
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> 1.“I Feel the Earth Move”  
> 2.“So Far Away”  
> 3.“It’s Too Late” (lyrics by Toni Stern)  
> 4.“Home Again”  
> 5.“Beautiful”  
> 6.“Way Over Yonder”  
> 7.“You’ve Got a Friend”  
> 8.“Where You Lead” (lyrics by Toni Stern)  
> 9.“Will You Love Me Tomorrow?” (Gerry Goffin, King)  
> 10.“Smackwater Jack” (Goffin, King)  
> 11.“Tapestry”  
> 12.“(You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman” (Goffin, King, Jerry Wexler)

I would like to find out what is the largest selling album with all the songs written by the singer. I’d guess it’s either Dylan, Springsteen or Joel).

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