# Anybody have a name for this horribly annoying behavior?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 22, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775 "2011-11-22T18:15:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![AaronX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7bcc69/32.png) [@AaronX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AaronX)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775/21 "2011-11-26T11:55:07Z")

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> [@China\_Guy](#):
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> Some things in your luv muffin you just have to accept. And my way of dealing with it was to just name absurd prices to see what variation she would toss out.

That’s very nice of you.

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775/22 "2011-11-27T01:40:28Z")

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I will take pics and post someone’s item(s) for them, but put their email and phone number in the ad and and state that replies to the craigslist generated email will not be responded to. They have to deal with the actual sale of the item, not me.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775/23 "2011-11-27T01:57:51Z")

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> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#):
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> I see you’ve met my parents. They think everything is worth at least what they paid for it (before they used it) and the value increases exponentially as the item ages. For awhile they wanted me to unload their valuable treasured 78’s inherited from my grandfather. He bought the same ones millions of other people did, they’re all mainstream and none are special enough to be sold separately. But there are hundreds! And they’re OLD! The boxes they’re in weigh SO MUCH! Hence they are quite valuable and I \*could \*get someone to pay lots of money if I simply tried harder to sell them the right way. They’re worth thousands, certainly.

My brother inherited a hope chest from my grandparents full of records. He listened to a few of them but lost interest after a while. He thinks there’s about 200 in it and was trying to figure out what to do with it. He was thinking about putting it on CL. My suggestion…take it to a record shop and say “I have 200 records, they’re yours for $50” No stupid emails from stupid craigslist people. No organizing pickups. No one ringing your doorbell even though the ad said “If it’s not by the tree out front it’s gone, don’t ring the bell.” No breaking it up in to smaller chunks to put on ebay so you can ship it.  
I also suggested that if one or two places don’t take him up on the $40 or $50 then just give it to the next place for free. It’s a college town that I assume is full of hipsters…I have to guess that if a record shop puts a bunch of vinyl jazz standards and big band stuff out $2.00 or so it’ll move fast enough that one of those record shops will want it.

Yeah, if you sell each one individually you can probably gross over a thousand dollars but you’ll probably net negative when you factor in time and gas. Take them to a record shop and see if you can dump off the whole thing (or half of it) and get a few bucks. If you have no use for them, you’ll probably be happier with the extra space back.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775/24 "2011-11-27T02:28:44Z")

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Anybody have a name for this horribly annoying behavior? “Couldn’t you have gotten more?”

> [@ZenBeam](#):
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> [Seller’s remorse](http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-sellers-remorse.htm) is probably a big part of it. . .

That would probably be the whole of it if the question was just a way of sharing their experience of disappointment. If they’re really shifting into “I’m disappointed therefore it’s your fault” territory, maybe we could call it Sellers Remorse by Proxy. I think the article is right that it’s best to warn sellers that they’re going to feel that way.

> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#):
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> I see you’ve met my parents. They think everything is worth at least what they paid for it (before they used it) and the value increases exponentially as the item ages. For awhile they wanted me to unload their valuable treasured 78’s inherited from my grandfather. He bought the same ones millions of other people did, they’re all mainstream and none are special enough to be sold separately. But there are hundreds! And they’re OLD! The boxes they’re in weigh SO MUCH! Hence they are quite valuable and I \*could \*get someone to pay lots of money if I simply tried harder to sell them the right way. They’re worth thousands, certainly.

You have my complete sympathy. I inherited some 78’s.\* Fortunately not nearly that many and no one is prodding me to sell them. Except for myself. I got to experience the disappointment by myself with a simple web search. I’m over it.

- On the up side, I figured out why 33 1/3 records are called albums. I think I inherited 3 albums plus a loose platters.

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**Author:** ![NGC2024](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NGC2024](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NGC2024)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775/25 "2011-11-27T04:18:23Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> My brother inherited a hope chest from my grandparents full of records. He listened to a few of them but lost interest after a while. He thinks there’s about 200 in it and was trying to figure out what to do with it. He was thinking about putting it on CL. My suggestion…take it to a record shop and say “I have 200 records, they’re yours for $50” No stupid emails from stupid craigslist people. No organizing pickups. No one ringing your doorbell even though the ad said “If it’s not by the tree out front it’s gone, don’t ring the bell.” No breaking it up in to smaller chunks to put on ebay so you can ship it.  
> I also suggested that if one or two places don’t take him up on the $40 or $50 then just give it to the next place for free. It’s a college town that I assume is full of hipsters…I have to guess that if a record shop puts a bunch of vinyl jazz standards and big band stuff out $2.00 or so it’ll move fast enough that one of those record shops will want it.
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> Yeah, if you sell each one individually you can probably gross over a thousand dollars but you’ll probably net negative when you factor in time and gas. Take them to a record shop and see if you can dump off the whole thing (or half of it) and get a few bucks. If you have no use for them, you’ll probably be happier with the extra space back.

I’m sorry but I think you gave your brother really bad advice.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775/26 "2011-11-27T05:02:46Z")

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> [@NGC2024](#):
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> I’m sorry but I think you gave your brother really bad advice.

Care to expand?

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**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775/27 "2011-11-27T05:53:36Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Just FTR, I don’t do this at random. I do this either for my own stuff, as in stuff my SO and I have agreed to sell, or for work. And yes, my SO does do this to me. And it still grates, though he gets something of a pass.

Next time ask George Constanza how much he wants to sell it for. Don’t accept a “it’s up to you” response.

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**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775/28 "2011-11-27T05:54:39Z")

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> [@NGC2024](#):
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> I’m sorry but I think you gave your brother really bad advice.

Agreed, could of been a big gold nugget in that collection.

Might see it on an episode of Pawn Stars soon.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775/29 "2011-11-27T06:26:31Z")

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> [@Ibanez](#):
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> Agreed, could of been a big gold nugget in that collection.
> 
> Might see it on an episode of Pawn Stars soon.

Maybe, but that’s kinda what the OP is complaining about.

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**Author:** ![NGC2024](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NGC2024](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NGC2024)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775/30 "2011-11-27T13:37:34Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Care to expand?

Well, you valued the collection at over $1,000. With that information, you encouraged him to sell the collection for five percent (5%) of its total value. That sounds like really poor advice to me.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775/31 "2011-11-27T13:54:22Z")

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> [@NGC2024](#):
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> Well, you valued the collection at over $1,000. With that information, you encouraged him to sell the collection for five percent (5%) of its total value. That sounds like really poor advice to me.

Actually, I ‘valued’ Nawth’s collection at over $1000, but I didn’t put that price tag on it, Nawth’s parent’s did.

I tell you what, since you seem to think these collections of random records are worth well over $1000 I’m sure either of them would be happy to sell them to you for $1000. Can I have my brother call you?  
As my dad always says, “Things are only worth what someone else is willing to pay for them.”

Also, my thought process behind selling a $1000 collection for $200 was this: Sure, Nawth (or my brother) might be able to _gross_ an average of $5 per record if they sold them individually (or maybe in 2’s or 3’s). If they did research to find out how much each one was worth. If they ran all over town to record shops. Put them one at a time on Ebay and CL and random collectors BBs on the internet. Spend all that time shipping them…but is it really worth it? What are they going to _net_ when they’re done? How much are they going to have left when they factor in the time and gas they spend working on a project they really didn’t have any interest in to begin with?  
So $50 for doing almost no work at all or a higher amount of money for doing a shit load of work…I’d just dump them off at a record shop.

But like I said earlier…I mentioned that he could probably $50 at a record shop and you telling him that he could probably get more then that is virtually exactly what the OP is talking about.

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**Author:** ![CheWhat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@CheWhat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheWhat)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775/32 "2011-11-27T14:10:48Z")

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Should’ve gone Price is Right on her… One dollar!

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775/33 "2011-11-27T16:14:32Z")

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**Joey P** is right on. My parents live in a rural area far from me and they wanted to either pay a lot of money to ship the whole thing to me for selling or have me drive up for it, then sell it - all on their behalf, all w/ me doing the Internet research, calling people, setting prices, arranging sales; all this for a group of records they inherited so their sense of the collection’s value came from no actual knowledge whatsoever. And Mom doesn’t know how to research their value or who to call or email so it’s down to me.

They also inherited all my grandpa’s documents, passes and pictures from his time as a security guard at Kennedy Space Center during Apollo and Gemini. That \*\*is \*\*a valuable collection but it’s stuffed in a box somewhere in their house as Grandpa’s ‘work papers’. When I bring those up I get brushed off.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775/34 "2011-11-27T21:05:47Z")

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I’d call this attitude “presumptuousness”.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775/35 "2011-11-27T21:43:53Z")

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I call it greed and get it every time I list something for my mother on ebay. She does not understand (or is just playing dumb) that I have to deduct shipping and final value fees from her total.

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775/36 "2011-11-28T00:23:31Z")

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> [@jabiru](#):
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> I wanted to buy a second hand wardrobe many years ago. A friend had one, in fairly good condition, in her garage and wasn’t using it. I asked her about buying it and how much she wanted for it. She declined to name a price and wanted to know how much I would pay for it. Since I think it’s on the seller to name a price, I declined and bought another elsewhere.
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> Hers is still sitting in her garage, no longer usable. Her loss.

I believe it’s on the initiator of the sale to name the price. I hate when someone wants to buy something off of me, but expects me to come up with a price just like that. I don’t make a habit of keeping a running tally in my head of what I would sell my stuff for on the off-chance someone asked!

If you’re interested enough to ask if I’d sell something, the least you can do is make an offer, IMO.

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775/37 "2011-11-28T00:43:40Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Actually, I ‘valued’ Nawth’s collection at over $1000, but I didn’t put that price tag on it, Nawth’s parent’s did.
> 
> I tell you what, _ **since you seem to think these collections of random records are worth well over $1000** _ I’m sure either of them would be happy to sell them to you for $1000. Can I have my brother call you?  
> As my dad always says, “Things are only worth what someone else is willing to pay for them.”
> 
> Also, my thought process behind selling a $1000 collection for $200 was this: Sure, Nawth (or my brother) might be able to _gross_ an average of $5 per record if they sold them individually (or maybe in 2’s or 3’s). If they did research to find out how much each one was worth. If they ran all over town to record shops. Put them one at a time on Ebay and CL and random collectors BBs on the internet. Spend all that time shipping them…but is it really worth it? What are they going to _net_ when they’re done? How much are they going to have left when they factor in the time and gas they spend working on a project they really didn’t have any interest in to begin with?  
> So $50 for doing almost no work at all or a higher amount of money for doing a shit load of work…I’d just dump them off at a record shop.
> 
> But like I said earlier…I mentioned that he could probably $50 at a record shop and _ **you telling him that he could probably get more then that** _ is virtually exactly what the OP is talking about.

Holy agita.

I was basing my conclusion on the information you provided. Nothing more, nothing less. Please don’t assign presumptions to me that don’t belong to me.

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-have-a-name-for-this-horribly-annoying-behavior/603775/38 "2011-11-30T21:24:57Z")

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> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#):
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> **Joey P** is right on. My parents live in a rural area far from me and they wanted to either pay a lot of money to ship the whole thing to me for selling or have me drive up for it, then sell it - all on their behalf, all w/ me doing the Internet research, calling people, setting prices, arranging sales; all this for a group of records they inherited so their sense of the collection’s value came from no actual knowledge whatsoever. And Mom doesn’t know how to research their value or who to call or email so it’s down to me.
> 
> They also inherited all my grandpa’s documents, passes and pictures from his time as a security guard at Kennedy Space Center during Apollo and Gemini. That \*\*is \*\*a valuable collection but it’s stuffed in a box somewhere in their house as Grandpa’s ‘work papers’. When I bring those up I get brushed off.

Offer a package deal. You’ll do a full court press on the records if you get to take home your grandpa’s box to keep and do with as you like. Or if you’re looking for a way to show them the extent of the work necessary, get a quote or three on the cost of evaluating the records. Then evaluate the shipping and handling costs. . . or not. I kind of like the idea of buying the hostage NASA box with ebay toil.

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