# Anybody know an active Q supporter? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 18, 2021, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-know-an-active-q-supporter/956289 "2021-12-18T17:04:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-know-an-active-q-supporter/956289/61 "2022-01-05T14:28:52Z")
He was showing me videos of people who stormed the Capitol who were (according to my friend) wearing Antifa logos. And from the videos he concluded, “Most of the people who stormed the Capitol were actually Antifa.” Based on his latest FB post, he still believes this. Oh, and FBI provocateurs, of course. I’m not sure how to respond to him. Or _if_ I should respond to him. He suffers from a serious case of confirmation bias. I have distanced myself from him over the last few years. Which is unfortunate, because he’s an O.K. person with the exception of all the conspiracy theories he believes in. (I once made the mistake of challenging his conspiracy theories. He got upset, called me a sheep, and said, “You believe everything the government tells you, don’t you?”) ---
**Author:** ![SpacemanSpiff\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SpacemanSpiff\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpacemanSpiff_II)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-know-an-active-q-supporter/956289/62 "2022-01-05T14:58:25Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > When someone is using YouTube videos to disprove something they saw with their own eyes, there’s nothing you can do. If he won’t believe himself, why would he believe anyone else? From Crafter Man’s post. > [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > He attended the January 6 event, but (wisely) didn’t go in the Capitol building. So the storming of the Capitol is **not** something that he saw with his own eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-know-an-active-q-supporter/956289/63 "2022-01-05T15:12:50Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > He was showing me videos of people who stormed the Capitol who were (according to my friend) wearing Antifa logos. I googled this out of morbid curiosity. The best I could find is that there’s a guy with a hand tattoo that got misidentified as the Antifa logo, when in fact it was the Outsiders mark from the video game Dishonored ([link](https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fbloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com%2Fjournalnow.com%2Fcontent%2Ftncms%2Fassets%2Fv3%2Feditorial%2F2%2F5d%2F25decec0-55ca-11eb-88fc-3b9bee5bf84c%2F5fff36cb328f3.image.jpg%3Fresize%3D1200%252C684&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fjournalnow.com%2Fnews%2Fstate-and-regional%2Fman-who-stormed-capitol-posts-denial-that-hes-part-of-antifa-claims-fake-news-idd%2Farticle_52c11f5c-55c9-11eb-9371-6b73a3e5295b.html&tbnid=h7SHae_WRVCrWM&vet=1&docid=Q4Tz2CqP4XJ6oM&w=1200&h=684&itg=1&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim)). Apart from that, the other evidence of Antifa is that some of the protesters supposedly looked like people photographed at BLM rallies. Even though at this point most of the capitol rioters in those photos have been arrested, and of course shown to be long time supporters of trump. I know the Antifa claim is laughable, I’m not an idiot, I just wanted to see what on earth they thought actually supported that claim. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-know-an-active-q-supporter/956289/64 "2022-01-05T16:20:26Z")
even IF antifa or blm were there agitating things and encouraging the attack - what does that say about Trump supporters that followed? “Them Trump supports will follow ANYONE !” ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-know-an-active-q-supporter/956289/65 "2022-01-05T17:04:20Z")
> [@SpacemanSpiff\_II](#): > > From Crafter Man’s post. > > > [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > > > He attended the January 6 event, but (wisely) didn’t go in the Capitol building. > > So the storming of the Capitol is **not** something that he saw with his own eyes. He “didn’t go in the Capitol building”, but we don’t really know how close he was to it. But no matter where he was, did he personally see any “Antifa” there? I’m betting at the time he thought he was surrounded by “loyal American patriots”. If any of them had seen “Antifa” on the actual day, we would have heard that immediately, and we would never stop hearing about it. So his current belief pretty much negates his entire personal experience, based solely on poorly-made YouTube videos (see discussion of same above). That’s a pretty deep rabbit hole he’s gone down. ---
**Author:** ![SpacemanSpiff\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SpacemanSpiff\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpacemanSpiff_II)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-know-an-active-q-supporter/956289/66 "2022-01-05T18:06:29Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > But no matter where he was, did he personally see any “Antifa” there? I’m betting at the time he thought he was surrounded by “loyal American patriots”. If any of them had seen “Antifa” on the actual day, we would have heard that immediately, and we would never stop hearing about it. AFAICT no one is claiming that the majority of the people who stormed the capitol were antifa. Only that there were a bunch of them who egged on the crowd. If you didn’t even attend the storming of the capitol and were only at the STS rally, it’s not contradicting the evidence of your own eyes to believe this. (FWIW, there was at least one left-winger who did storm the capitol and egged on others to do so, but I believe his motive was to get footage that he could sell to the media rather than to discredit the RW.) > [@Horatius](#): > > That’s a pretty deep rabbit hole he’s gone down. Anyone who attended that rally was already down a rabbit hole. I’m just quibbling with the assertion here that this belief is contradicting what he saw with his own eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-know-an-active-q-supporter/956289/67 "2022-01-05T18:14:56Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > But no matter where he was, did he personally see any “Antifa” there? At the time I recall he posted some photos on his FB page (personally taken by him) that purported to show that there were “Antifa” members in the crowd. I’ll see if I can dig them up and put them on my Flickr account. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-know-an-active-q-supporter/956289/68 "2022-01-05T19:45:33Z")
I betcha _Emmanuel Goldstein_ was there, and the whole thing is his fault. Republicans should perhaps dedicate a couple of minutes every day to denouncing this evil character. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-know-an-active-q-supporter/956289/69 "2022-01-05T20:04:17Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > At the time I recall he posted some photos on his FB page (personally taken by him) that purported to show that there were “Antifa” members in the crowd. I’ll see if I can dig them up and put them on my Flickr account. Well, if this is true, then I suppose he’s not _quite_ as delusional as I thought. “Good news everybody! We only have to eat _half_ of this shit sandwich!” ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-know-an-active-q-supporter/956289/70 "2022-01-06T07:10:59Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Well, if this is true, then I suppose he’s not _quite_ as delusional as I thought. Ah, but who’s to say there weren’t pro-Trump people dressed up as Antifa to discredit them? Can anyone _prove_ there weren’t? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-know-an-active-q-supporter/956289/71 "2022-01-06T08:00:39Z")
One of the rioters later said she was Antifa, but that was just a misunderstanding. She just hated Vietnamese noodle soup. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-know-an-active-q-supporter/956289.md?page=3)