# Anybody remember OBL and Hussein? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 25, 2003, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528 "2003-10-25T18:39:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/101 "2003-11-02T14:06:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by spogga \* > \*\*Yet again you fail to read the post correctly > > Quote:\*\* LIKE a canary \*\* > > Like I said before, pay attention \*\* Yeah, it’s a simile. A _specific kind of metaphor_. If you leave out the ‘like’ it becomes a different kind of metaphor and totally changes the meaning. Oh wait, it dioesn’t change the mean ing one iota. Hmmmm… **spogga** wtf’s your point? Have you run out of relevant, factual, logical objections to what’s being said and all that you’ve left is the ability to point out irrelevant changes in types of metaphor? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![spogga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@spogga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spogga)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/102 "2003-11-02T15:59:20Z")
Singing LIKE canaries and singing canaries are quite different sayings. Changes things a lot IMO ---
**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/103 "2003-11-02T22:40:14Z")
It really changes when you see singing canaries with ragheads… Like I said: a whole new species. Spogga, do you have something interesting to say that has its origin in your own mind… Or is it your hobby to go on message boards to just repeat what others have written and limit your comments to give your opinon on what others have written to others? Salaam. A ---
**Author:** ![monty2\_2001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@monty2\_2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monty2_2001)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/104 "2003-11-02T23:12:21Z")
The mohammedans need to go… spogga’s 100% right on this. And I’m sorry to see so many leftwing politically correct babies can’t take it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/105 "2003-11-02T23:38:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by monty2\_2001 \* > The mohammedans need to go… All 1 billion of them??? You are aware that we’re talking about that many people, right? ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/106 "2003-11-03T00:37:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ammo52 \* > More and more of the captured raghead’ers are singing like canaries. **Moderator’s Note:** **Ammo52** , don’t use racial or ethnic slurs on the SDMB. (And no, “US’ers” is not an ethnic slur.) And **monty2\_2001** you need to watch it too. If you want to argue against the belief in an Islamic state, or against Islamic fundamentalism, or against Islam in general, fine, but advocating genocide is right out. Got it? ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/107 "2003-11-03T01:35:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MEBuckner \* > \*\ ***Moderator’s Note:** **Ammo52** (And no, “US’ers” is not an ethnic slur.) \*\* How isn’t it? You would never allow someone to refer to “Blacks” as “lazy” or “Jews” as “greedy”, but somehow “US’ers” are “bloodthirsty” is OK. ---
**Author:** ![laigle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@laigle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/laigle)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/108 "2003-11-03T01:46:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by milroyj \* > \*\*How isn’t it? You would never allow someone to refer to “Blacks” as “lazy” or “Jews” as “greedy”, but somehow “US’ers” are “bloodthirsty” is OK. \*\* Well, I would say it’s a nationalistic bigotry. What I think the mod was referring to was “US’ers” for Americans as opposed to “raghead” for Arab. Spouting a bunch of bigoted tripe would be a seperate no-no. ---
**Author:** ![ammo52](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@ammo52](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ammo52)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/109 "2003-11-03T01:49:49Z")
That’s pretty chicken-shit… especially given aldebaran’s “reason” for continuing his taunt of “US’er” despite being called on it by multiple posters. Seems the word “Americans”, and oddly enough, _only_ the word “Americans”, proves difficult for him to type-- so, reluctantly, he settles for the nonsensical “US’er.” :rolleyes: Paragraph after paragraph, he manages to communicate quite effectively in English, not his native tongue, and despite his claim of dyslexia. That one word seems to trip him up, though, and you give him a free pass. How 'bout showing some consistency, and asking aldebaran to make an effort to type “Americans” while he’s pointing out our evils? Or, do you buy his cover story? ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/110 "2003-11-03T02:24:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by laigle \* > \*\*Well, I would say it’s a nationalistic bigotry. What I think the mod was referring to was “US’ers” for Americans as opposed to “raghead” for Arab. Spouting a bunch of bigoted tripe would be a seperate no-no. \*\* Oh, I agree “raghead” is WAY over the top. However, nationalistic bigotry, a la “US’ers”, shouldn’t be allowed, either. IMHO. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![laigle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@laigle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/laigle)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/111 "2003-11-03T02:31:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by milroyj \* > \*\*Oh, I agree “raghead” is WAY over the top. However, nationalistic bigotry, a la “US’ers”, shouldn’t be allowed, either. > > IMHO. YMMV. \*\* Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![spogga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@spogga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spogga)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/112 "2003-11-03T03:26:23Z")
I’m with AMMO on this, alde finds no problem typing words which are much more difficult to spell than America, instead he resorts to US’ers which as I have said before is a thinly disguised attempt at saying “users”. I for one find it hard to be believe his claim of dyslexia and am surprised the mods seem to have fallen for it. I also don’t think MONTY was advocating genocide, I think he meant that alde had to go…from the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![Wake\_up\_call](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/dec6dc/32.png) [@Wake\_up\_call](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wake_up_call)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/113 "2003-11-03T04:14:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by spogga \* > **…he resorts to US’ers which as I have said before is a thinly disguised attempt at saying “users”.** “Capitalism”, as exercised in the U.S, differs from European capitalism. In the US, Capitalism is the dominating party (Republican and Democrats being two wings of the same party). In Europe, Capitalism is just one party among many. If you want to debate whether US Style Capitalism = Users, that is a different debate, deserving a new thread. On this thread, we are discussing how the “Ministry of Truth” brainwashes the Americans with Koby Bryan stories rather than reminding them daily about the “root causes of terrorisn” and why they have to pay $87 Billion in taxes and lives of their servicemen/women to chase OBL and Saddam. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/114 "2003-11-03T05:26:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by spogga \* > I also don’t think MONTY was advocating genocide, I think he meant that alde had to go…from the SDMB. Huh? I have never, and believe I never shall, advocate genocide. As for Aldebaran: [ul][li]I don’t believe he has a doctorate in any field of study, contrary to his assertion.[/li][li]I don’t believe he has a freaking clue about anything whatsoever, again contrary to his constant assertions.[/li]I believe his inane & insane hatred of the US for no logical or sane reason drives his errant & ridiculous postings.[/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/115 "2003-11-03T05:53:17Z")
spogga: Ah, I see you’re talking about monty2\_2001 who’s evidently stuck in time about, what?, 100 years past. When’s the last time you saw the term “mohammedans” in intelligent discourse? ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/116 "2003-11-03T05:56:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monty \* > \*\*When’s the last time you saw the term “mohammedans” in intelligent discourse? \*\* In a book first published in 1983. ---
**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/117 "2003-11-03T07:25:10Z")
As for the OP’s “debate”: Anybody remember OBL and Hussein? Yes, I’m sure a lot of people do. . I’d like to thank you, Aldebaran, for the laughs. You’re priceless. Please go on with your “studies”. Don’t forget your “dyslexia” to shine through in your posts, though. All of a sudden your “debates” seem to be in passable English. Which makes me wonder… So is Daisy Cutter’s. ---
**Author:** ![spogga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@spogga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spogga)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/118 "2003-11-03T11:28:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monty \* > \*\*spogga: Ah, I see you’re talking about monty2\_2001 who’s evidently stuck in time about, what?, 100 years past. When’s the last time you saw the term “mohammedans” in intelligent discourse? \*\* Yes sorry MONTY I wasn’t quite clear in my post. WAKE UP CALL: Capitalism as defined by Chambers is the condition of possessing capital or wealth and also an economic system which is driven by the profit motive. No mention is made of political parties either in the USA or Europe or for that matter anywhere on Earth. In other words capitalism is capitalism no matter where the system is practised. As I said , alde’s use of US’ers is nothing more than an attempt to brand The United States as a nation of ‘users’ and even though I am English I find this as offensive as his use of the non-word EU’ers to describe Europeans. Doubtless he would not like it if I were to constantly refer to him as a ‘MUS’er’. ---
**Author:** ![Rashak\_Mani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Rashak\_Mani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rashak_Mani)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/119 "2003-11-03T16:58:05Z")
Does he say US’ers because everyone else in the continent is American ? People in the US are one of three North American nations ? So what do you call someone from the USA ? Naturally most just use “American” as a general term for USA people… but many don’t. I don’t think its the same as “raghead” or “cameljockey”. Saw a T-Shirt overhere… all red, white and blue in the front saying “I’m American…”. The Back was green and yellow (our colors) with “I’m South American”. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![spogga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@spogga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spogga)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528/120 "2003-11-03T17:10:39Z")
I think he uses the word as an insult because of his irrational hatred of the USA. BTW I once touched a ball that Pele had kicked and I have a Brazilian football shirt. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-remember-obl-and-hussein/209528.md?page=7)