# Anyone else annoyed at Madonna (for the same resons I am)?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 7, 2003, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-annoyed-at-madonna-for-the-same-resons-i-am/173671 "2003-05-07T15:11:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Payton\_s\_Servant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3da27b/32.png) [@Payton\_s\_Servant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Payton_s_Servant)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-annoyed-at-madonna-for-the-same-resons-i-am/173671/21 "2003-05-08T02:10:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by even sven \*  
> \*\*I like how she talks about **American Life** like it is a piece of fucking public service that she created it, and then pulls the cute little anti-filesharing stunt. Now, I understand she has legitimate concerns about file sharing. But if she are going to say that fortune and wealth arn’t important to her _and_ talk about how this song is going to “show” the world this and “explain” to them that and talk about it as if out of the goodness of her heart she decided to share all her wisdom and write a song that will fix all the problems in the world…well, you think she wouldn’t be quite so upset that the word is getting spread. \*\*

Well, since it wasn’t just the one song that CrapHats were illegally downloading, but the **entire album** Madonna is quite right to be more then a little pissed off.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-annoyed-at-madonna-for-the-same-resons-i-am/173671/22 "2003-05-08T02:18:37Z")

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I like her music, I will say that. I have the Immaculate Collection, and it’s pretty damn good.

That being said, Madonna herself gets annoying.

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**Author:** ![Torgo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@Torgo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Torgo)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-annoyed-at-madonna-for-the-same-resons-i-am/173671/23 "2003-05-08T02:34:32Z")

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I _love_ how Madonna’s confrontational, anti file-sharing stunt completely blew up in her face. For those who don’t know, she released spoof files that said “What the fuck do you think you’re doing?” as she was preparing to release her new album. Now, DJs all over the world are incorporating the “what-the-fuck” file into their mixes for all to enjoy.

\<nelson\> HA ha! \</nelson\>

[http://news.dmusic.com/article/6532](http://news.dmusic.com/article/6532)

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-annoyed-at-madonna-for-the-same-resons-i-am/173671/24 "2003-05-08T05:15:22Z")

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Frankly, I’m still pissed at her for butchering Don McLean’s work.

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**Author:** ![SweetLucy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@SweetLucy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SweetLucy)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-annoyed-at-madonna-for-the-same-resons-i-am/173671/25 "2003-05-08T07:17:48Z")

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Madonna’s music absolutely bites…always has, and always will :rolleyes: She has no talent, is butt-ugly, and has to reinvent herself every six months or so to keep the public’s attention.

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**Author:** ![Summertime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@Summertime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Summertime)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-annoyed-at-madonna-for-the-same-resons-i-am/173671/26 "2003-05-08T13:31:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lobsang \*  
> \*\*How old is she? Let’s say she’s 50 (IANI). That means she’s lived in America for 48 years. I think that gives her some justification to criticise. \*\*

She’ll be 45 this August.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-annoyed-at-madonna-for-the-same-resons-i-am/173671/27 "2003-05-08T13:32:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Dewey Cheatem Undhow \*  
> \*\*Frankly, I’m still pissed at her for butchering Don McLean’s work. \*\*

Ugh, that made me want to slit my wrists.

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**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-annoyed-at-madonna-for-the-same-resons-i-am/173671/28 "2003-05-08T13:46:01Z")

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Madonna reached her peak over ten years ago. Hell, even I was a fan back then. But ever since The Immaculate Collection her schtick has become more and more bizarre. Like she’s constantly having to top herself. It is backfiring.

Personally, I think she constantly reinvents herself because that’s the only way she is going to remain in the limelight. If she depended soley on her musical (and acting) talent, she’d be a blurb in an 80’s trivia game by now.

Truly talented people do not need to constantly reinvent themselves. Did Ella Fitzgerald ever have to reinvent herself? I also believe that without MTV and music videos, she never would have even made past the first album.

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**Author:** ![Payton\_s\_Servant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3da27b/32.png) [@Payton\_s\_Servant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Payton_s_Servant)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-annoyed-at-madonna-for-the-same-resons-i-am/173671/29 "2003-05-08T16:40:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by LolaCocaCola \*  
> \*\*Truly talented people do not need to constantly reinvent themselves. \*\*

The Beatles reinvented themselves.

Bob Dylan reinvented himself.

Elvis Presley reinvented himself.

Miles Davis reinvented himself.

The Rolling Stones reinvented themselves.

Eric Clapton reinvented himself.

Chuck Berry reinvented himself.

The Bee Gees reinvented themselves.

But of course, none of them are talented, right?:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-annoyed-at-madonna-for-the-same-resons-i-am/173671/30 "2003-05-08T16:51:56Z")

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None of those people changed their image every couple of years like Madonna has. Man, Elvis wore the tight, sequined jumpsuits even when he really should’ve stopped wearing 'em!

The difference also is, the above-mentioned people actually _have_ talent and do not have to solely depend on a new gimmick to stay on top.

I also think comparing Madonna to that talent pool is, well, _ninnyish_.

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**Author:** ![TigoleBitties](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cab0a1/32.png) [@TigoleBitties](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TigoleBitties)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-annoyed-at-madonna-for-the-same-resons-i-am/173671/31 "2003-05-08T16:56:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Payton’s Servant \*  
> \*\*The Beatles reinvented themselves., etc etc
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Ah but to counterpoint…

Frank Sinatra never reinvented himself, the world reinvented itself around Sinatra.

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