# Anyone else anxious to see True Grit?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 10, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670 "2010-12-10T16:23:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/61 "2010-12-14T01:07:10Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> I’m not generally into Westerns and never saw the original, but it looks to be all unholy levels of badass.
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> Although I think Matt Damon may have been miscast. He just looks like Matt Damon with a fake moustache and a fake accent (and I’m positive he’s just channeling Matthew McConaughey anyway). I love the guy but he’s not necessarily right for every role.

If you know the role, you know he’s fine for it. The original was played by glen campbell - he’s _supposed_ to be a pretty boy lightweight.

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/62 "2010-12-14T01:09:56Z")

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> [@Susanann](#):
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> You can not remake a \*\*John Wayne \*\* movie. The remake will always be terrible by comparison. You might as well try to remake **Gone with the Wind**.

Seriously? John Wayne was a huge star and an icon, but it’s not like he was an amazing actor doing stellar films, not by a longshot.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/63 "2010-12-14T01:14:36Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Although I think Matt Damon may have been miscast. He just looks like Matt Damon with a fake moustache and a fake accent (and I’m positive he’s just channeling Matthew McConaughey anyway). I love the guy but he’s not necessarily right for every role.

I thought Matt Damon did a fine job of playing a Texan (including a fine job with the accent) in [All the Pretty Horses](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0149624/). So I’d say he’s passed the audition.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/64 "2010-12-14T01:58:35Z")

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Is John Wayne in it?

No?

Nope, won’t be seein’ it.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/65 "2010-12-14T02:07:26Z")

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Rumored to be next up: a remake of McLintock! starring Mel Gibson’s and one of the Kardashian sisters. Mel’s already spanking them to figure out which is best for the Maureen O’Hara part.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/66 "2010-12-14T03:11:23Z")

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> [@Stoid](#):
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> Seriously? John Wayne was a huge star and an icon, but it’s not like he was an amazing actor doing stellar films, not by a longshot.

Have you seen _Stagecoach_ or _She wore a Yellow Ribbon_?  
🙂

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**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/67 "2010-12-14T04:04:20Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Have you seen _Stagecoach_ or _She wore a Yellow Ribbon_?  
> 🙂

I’ve gotta get back to work, but let me just rush in here, say that Stagecoach wasn’t much at all. Neither was Rio Bravo. Neither was John Wayne.

The Wayne/Campbell True Grit was okay, but not a great iconic film.

Haven’t seen Yellow Ribbon, and have been burned by supposed Wayne classics too many times to even want to.

(Good Westerns? High Noon. McCabe & Mrs Miller. Tombstone. I’m definitely looking forward to the new True Grit; I’ve got my personal list of 3 or 4 Coen Brothers’ masterpieces and don’t think they’ve shot their wad just yet.)

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/68 "2010-12-14T04:55:25Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> I think this movie is going to be awesome.  
> At the same time I would give everything I have and more to see Jeff Bridges play Rooster Cogburn in his Dude persona.

I’d bet that during at least one take, Bridges did his lines as The Dude (or El Duderino, if you’re not into that whole brevity thing).

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/69 "2010-12-14T05:05:04Z")

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“That’s brave talk for a one eyed fat man!”  
“Well, that’s just, like, your opinion, dude.”

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/70 "2010-12-14T13:53:26Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> “That’s brave talk for a one eyed fat man!”  
> “Well, that’s just, like, your opinion, dude.”

No.

🙂

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/71 "2010-12-14T15:03:40Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> …and John Turturro as Ned Pepper.

Nobody fucks with dee Pepper!!

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/72 "2010-12-14T15:43:56Z")

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> [@Baal\_Houtham](#):
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> I’ve gotta get back to work, but let me just rush in here, say that Stagecoach wasn’t much at all. Neither was Rio Bravo. Neither was John Wayne.
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> The Wayne/Campbell True Grit was okay, but not a great iconic film.
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> Haven’t seen Yellow Ribbon, and have been burned by supposed Wayne classics too many times to even want to.
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> (Good Westerns? High Noon. McCabe & Mrs Miller. Tombstone. I’m definitely looking forward to the new True Grit; I’ve got my personal list of 3 or 4 Coen Brothers’ masterpieces and don’t think they’ve shot their wad just yet.)

To see Wayne actually acting, and doing it damn well, check out his performance as Captain Rockwell Torrey in _In Harm’s Way_. For something a little more in the Western line, you may have heard of a little picture called _The Searchers_.

Yes, Wayne often played John Wayne. But, when called upon to do so, he could act his ass off.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/73 "2010-12-14T15:52:52Z")

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> [@BrotherCadfael](#):
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> Yes, Wayne often played John Wayne. But, when called upon to do so, he could act his ass off.

Yeah, I get really tired of the John Wayne bashing. You may or may not like the guy, for whatever reasons, but it’s just BS to say he couldn’t act. Watch [The Cowboys](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068421/) and [The Shootist](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075213/), then come back here and tell me he couldn’t act.

As for John Wayne playing John Wayne, so what? When has Jack Nicholson ever played anybody but Jack Nicholson?

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/74 "2010-12-14T18:03:03Z")

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> When has Jack Nicholson ever played anybody but Jack Nicholson?

Little Shop of Horrors.

Since then? Never. Which is why I stand amazed that people go so crazy about him.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
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Because no one plays a better Jack Nicholson than him. Filmmakers often want a Jack Nicholson in their movies, so why not go with the best?

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/76 "2010-12-14T18:12:38Z")

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For what its worth (nothing), _True Grit_ was shut out of the Golden Globes nominations.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/77 "2010-12-14T18:15:13Z")

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> [@Stoid](#):
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> Little Shop of Horrors.

Once. In 1960. For 20 minutes. 😉

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/78 "2010-12-19T08:15:29Z")

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He doesn’t know it yet, but my mom wants me to get Dad out of the house for a few hours on the 23rd so he’s not home when they deliver his new recliner, so I’m going to take him to see this. We watched the orginal this weekend, and I think the trailer looks better than it was. Perhaps only because I like the cast in the new movie better. And maybe there will be contractions in this version.

So, now that I’ve seen True Grit, I’m curious: does anyone else think **The Professional** (aka Leon) was inspired by this film? Not only does the girl in The Professional hire someone to kill the man who murdered her family, her name is even Mathilda.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/79 "2010-12-19T09:00:31Z")

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> When has Jack Nicholson ever played anybody but Jack Nicholson?

Off the top of my head, Easy Rider, The Pledge, Chinatown, The Departed, About Schmidt, Batman, Prizzi’s Honor, Reds, One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, The Last Detail. I’m sure there’s more.

**Gangster Octopus** , I don’t think **True Grit** was screened for the Hollywood Foreign Press Association (HFPA), the Golden Globes people.

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/80 "2010-12-19T09:53:12Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Off the top of my head, Easy Rider, The Pledge, Chinatown, The Departed, About Schmidt, Batman, Prizzi’s Honor, Reds, One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, The Last Detail. I’m sure there’s more.

The only one where he might be said to have created a character was Batman, but even that’s being generous.

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