# Anyone else anxious to see True Grit?

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**Created:** [December 10, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670 "2010-12-10T16:23:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/81 "2010-12-20T01:01:10Z")

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I’ve seen the previews and they look great.

Except, Jeff Bridges doesn’t look like a fat slob. He’s not even close to what Rooster Cogburn should look like. I’m not sure if Wayne deliberately gained weight for the role or not. Wayne was much thinner in his other 60’s roles (Alamo, Sons of Katie Elder, War Wagon).

I want to see the movie. I sure wish they had stuffed some padding in Bridges’ costume.

long preview here.  
[http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/36671675/ns/today-entertainment/](http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/36671675/ns/today-entertainment/)

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> Exactly. For much of the movie Rooster had been a drunken buffoon, whose glory days were far FAR behind him, which is why Mattie, who had hired him based on his former reputation, was able to hire him for a pittance and insist that she go along for the capture (edit to add, he couldn’t turn her down because he needed the money, any money).

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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A good recent piece on Bridges: [Jeff Bridges on 'True Grit,' working with the Coen brothers, and the legacy of 'The Big Lebowski' - cleveland.com](http://www.cleveland.com/moviebuff/index.ssf/2010/12/jeff_bridges_on_true_grit_work.html)

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/83 "2010-12-20T01:49:29Z")

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The _True Grit_ previews reminded me how much Eastwood borrowed for _Unforgiven_. Both involve a washed up guy helping someone get revenge. Rooster a fomer lawman and Eastwood’s character a gunfighter.

I hope this new version of _True Grit_ doesn’t over do the violence. Shoot outs are fine. But, the graphic stuff they did in _Unforgiven_ was way too much for me.

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/84 "2010-12-20T01:56:22Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> The Dude vs. the Duke.

"Where’s the fuckin’ money… _pilgrim?"_  
"It’s down there somewhere, lemme have another look, …_one-eyed fat man._

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**Author:** ![wintertime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c68b51/32.png) [@wintertime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wintertime)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/85 "2010-12-21T11:17:06Z")

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True Grit is on my must-see-list since I’ve heard who was involved in the project; wouldn’t mind at all to discover it in the next sneak preview.

> [@Sampiro](#):
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> I’d wager most people under 40 know John Wayne the same as they know Johnny Carson and Liberace- (..)

I’m curious. Did some seismic event occur when you decided to put John Wayne and Liberace into the same sentence?

> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#):
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> . . .maybe it’s Robert Duvall. Everything’s better with Duvall, even as old as he is now.

This deserved a second mention.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/86 "2010-12-21T14:40:04Z")

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True Grit opens tomorrow! Some theaters are having midnight shows tonight and if I didn’t have to get up early in the morning I’d be there. I’d planned on seeing it tomorrow night until I found out another theater is having a free showing of the original Tron, which I’ve never seen at all. I know it’s not supposed to be a very good movie, but I did want to see it before seeing the new one, and this is my only chance to see it on film. Thursday is out, I’m seeing a 1968 Japanese horror classic, Kuroneko, and it’s my last chance to see Enter The Void. Friday is out, so I’ll be seeing it Christmas Day. So much for “I’ll be there Opening day!” Sigh.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/87 "2010-12-21T16:53:00Z")

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> The original movie stuck VERY closely to the book, including much of the dialogue. The only place it departed from the book was the very end.

> [@Spoke](#):
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> The first movie followed the book almost line-for-line (up until the very end, where it diverged).
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> According to statements by Matt Damon, this new version is supposed to be “truer” to the book. Don’t know how it could be truer to the book without also following the novel line-for-line _and_ using the novel’s ending.

The novel is narrated from Mattie’s perspective and is about her True Grit, rather than Marshall Cogburn’s.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/88 "2010-12-21T19:41:34Z")

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[QUOTE=wintertime]  
I’m curious. Did some seismic event occur when you decided to put John Wayne and Liberace into the same sentence?  
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Have you ever seen a picture of the two of them _together_?

I’d say more but we’d both be in serious danger- though I will say that the famous Wayne/TRUE GRIT line “Fill your hands you son of a bitch” did NOT originate with Wayne.

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**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/89 "2010-12-21T20:29:36Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I’ve seen the previews and they look great.
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> Except, Jeff Bridges doesn’t look like a fat slob. He’s not even close to what Rooster Cogburn should look like. I’m not sure if Wayne deliberately gained weight for the role or not. Wayne was much thinner in his other 60’s roles (Alamo, Sons of Katie Elder, War Wagon).
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> I want to see the movie. I sure wish they had stuffed some padding in Bridges’ costume.
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> long preview here.  
> [http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/36671675/ns/today-entertainment/](http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/36671675/ns/today-entertainment/)

I wonder if we’re just used to fatter people today. In the old west, people who were “fat” may have been only pleasantly plump by today’s standards.

Anyway, I CAN’T WAIT to see this movie. I love the book in a wholly unnatural way; I read it before ever seeing the original movie and I definitely think the Coens will do a superb job in upping the quirky quotient in keeping with the book. It reminds me in some ways of _Addie Pray_, the book upon which they based the movie _Paper Moon_. It’s a decent movie, but stops before the story realllly gets good. I’d love it see it in the hands of the Coens!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/90 "2010-12-21T20:33:33Z")

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Hey, I read _Addie Pray_ a few months ago and really enjoyed it. _Paper Moon_ is a wonderful movie, but there’s a lot more good stuff in the book.

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**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/91 "2010-12-21T21:01:16Z")

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I just love _Addie Pray_. I appropriated many of the sayings in that book as my own, like “nervous as a cat with deaf kittens” and “he could sell doodlebugs for doorknobs.”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/92 "2010-12-22T04:46:09Z")

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Whoever first sees the new _True Grit_, please start a spoiler-laden new thread.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/93 "2010-12-22T11:14:10Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Whoever first sees the new _True Grit_, please start a spoiler-laden new thread.

I went to the midnight show after all, and [started a new thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=590247), though I request that spoilers and comparisons be kept in spoiler boxes, at least for a while.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/94 "2010-12-22T13:59:33Z")

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Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/95 "2010-12-22T14:54:06Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> The novel is narrated from Mattie’s perspective and is about her True Grit, rather than Marshall Cogburn’s.

You think the movie wasn’t about Mattie’s true grit? It was about the grit of both characters, same as the book. And as I said, the movie followed the book almost line for line.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/96 "2010-12-23T23:16:00Z")

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I guess not enough people are anxious to see it, because the closest place to me playing it is all the way in Wells, Maine. That’s more than 30 miles from here, jeez. Dad’s gift isn’t coming until the 28th despite their promise to deliever today because the people at Bob’s Furniture are a bunch of [insert pit material rant] so I’m sort of hoping True Grit will show up some place a little closer by Tuesday ☹

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/97 "2010-12-24T04:04:54Z")

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I’m busy with family stuff right now, but hope to see it in the next week or so.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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CNN’s reviewer loved it: [Review: 'True Grit' resurrects a classic - CNN.com](http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/12/23/true.grit.review/index.html?hpt=C2)

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/99 "2010-12-25T21:49:45Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> CNN’s reviewer loved it: [Review: 'True Grit' resurrects a classic - CNN.com](http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/12/23/true.grit.review/index.html?hpt=C2)

I think the last paragraph answered the question it doesn’t really ask:

> [@](#):
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> It’s a real western, good enough to remind us why this strand of storytelling became a _ **bedrock for the nation** _ and a Hollywood mainstay for half a century or more. _ **Shamefully overlooked in the Golden Globes** _, “True Grit” is right up there with the best pictures of the year.

It’s a big fat slice of America - the Golden Globes are the Foreign Press Association. They don’t relate.  
I’m going to to see it today, it’s my Christmas present to myself.

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-anxious-to-see-true-grit/563670/100 "2010-12-26T00:56:05Z")

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True to the book, and outstanding.  
I’m also a fan of the John Wayne version.

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