# Anyone else creeped out by Cindy McCain? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 11, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162 "2008-07-11T18:02:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/21 "2008-07-11T20:31:21Z")
[QUOTE=Burton] I can’t look at her. She can’t be helping him. [/QUOTE] Are you extra good looking or something? She looks like a fairly attractive woman to me. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/22 "2008-07-11T20:36:01Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] If you don’t already know, you are too nice a person for me to tell. [/QUOTE] If it’s MILF, it’s probably FLILF, to be analogous. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/23 "2008-07-11T20:42:07Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] Michelle O would definitely make my personal FLIWLF list. Being a very, very short list. [/QUOTE] I agree. Michelle Obama is totally hot. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/24 "2008-07-11T20:46:44Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] If you don’t already know, you are too nice a person for me to tell. [/QUOTE] Oh. I guess if I were a guy I’d feel that way too. I’m forced to admit her husband makes my list. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/25 "2008-07-11T20:51:07Z")
[QUOTE=Oy!] What puzzles me is that I’ve seen pics of her from a fews years, not a lot, back, when she was coloring her hair a bit darker, a bit more straw-colored (sort of yellowy-browney sort of color), and it was shorter and somewhat curved rather than long and pulled directly away from her face the way it is now. [/QUOTE] I’m against tight hair on all people. On middle-aged women, it’s just all kinds of wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/26 "2008-07-11T20:54:05Z")
[QUOTE=Kalhoun] I’m against tight hair on all people. On middle-aged women, it’s just all kinds of wrong. [/QUOTE] I agree; there are very few faces that aren’t significantly improved by a frame of some depth. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/27 "2008-07-11T20:59:57Z")
[QUOTE=Pochacco] I agree. Michelle Obama is totally hot. [/QUOTE] She doesn’t do it for me. Different strokes. BTW, how tall is she? Barack is pretty tall, and she seem to be about his height. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/28 "2008-07-11T21:06:38Z")
Certain Republican women always often vaguely creepy to me in the first place: women who seem content that men should always lead (should always be the “deciders,” at least publicly), or women who would have opposed universal suffrage a century ago. Cindy McCain seems kind of like that. Creepy. As for her looks, I try very hard not to be judgmental about a woman’s appearance. But certainly I don’t find that sort of thick makeup, fake hair color, and face-lifted appearance to attractive to me personally. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/29 "2008-07-11T21:06:53Z")
[QUOTE=Pochacco] I agree. Michelle Obama is totally hot. [/QUOTE] :eek: 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/30 "2008-07-11T21:11:07Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] She doesn’t do it for me. Different strokes. BTW, how tall is she? Barack is pretty tall, and she seem to be about his height. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. [/QUOTE] According to [IMDB](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2349292/bio), 5’ 10 & 3/4 ". ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/31 "2008-07-11T22:54:15Z")
[QUOTE=Burton] **Anyone else creeped out by Cindy McCain?** [/QUOTE] [2½"](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=472795&highlight=cindy), or not. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/32 "2008-07-11T22:59:56Z")
[QUOTE=Oy!] According to [IMDB](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2349292/bio), 5’ 10 & 3/4 ". [/QUOTE] Must be the heels. Barack is a lot taller than that. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/33 "2008-07-11T23:41:23Z")
[QUOTE=Knorf] Certain Republican women always often vaguely creepy to me in the first place: women who seem content that men should always lead (should always be the “deciders,” at least publicly), or women who would have opposed universal suffrage a century ago. Cindy McCain seems kind of like that. Creepy. [/QUOTE] What evidence do you have that Cindy McCain holds any such views? I mean, she’s spent the last eight years running a beer distributorship. Beer! She can’t be that evil if she sells beer by the truckload. ---
**Author:** ![Queen\_Bruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Queen\_Bruin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Bruin)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/34 "2008-07-12T00:05:54Z")
[QUOTE=friedo] What evidence do you have that Cindy McCain holds any such views? I mean, she’s spent the last eight years running a beer distributorship. Beer! She can’t be that evil if she sells beer by the truckload. [/QUOTE] It’s not very good beer. ---
**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/35 "2008-07-12T00:10:54Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Must be the heels. Barack is a lot taller than that. [/QUOTE] Also according to IMDb, he’s 6’ 1-1/2" (six feet, one and a half inches). ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/36 "2008-07-12T02:21:59Z")
[QUOTE=friedo] What evidence do you have that Cindy McCain holds any such views? I mean, she’s spent the last eight years running a beer distributorship. Beer! She can’t be that evil if she sells beer by the truckload. [/QUOTE] I don’t think she does. She just _seems_ like she might. I didn’t know about the beer. What kind of beer does she distribute? That might improve my opinion of her a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/37 "2008-07-12T03:20:28Z")
[QUOTE=friedo] What evidence do you have that Cindy McCain holds any such views? I mean, she’s spent the last eight years running a beer distributorship. Beer! She can’t be that evil if she sells beer by the truckload. [/QUOTE] A beer distributorship that she inherited from her late daddy. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/38 "2008-07-12T03:24:42Z")
[QUOTE=Knorf] I didn’t know about the beer. What kind of beer does she distribute? That might improve my opinion of her a lot. [/QUOTE] Anheuser-Busch beers, so Budwiser and whatever their other brands are. (also I don’t think she really ran the company, she was chairman of the board after her father’s death left her as the majority shareholder.) ---
**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/39 "2008-07-12T03:49:52Z")
In fairness, you might also want to consider some of her positive characteristics and accomplishments. This link from [snopes](http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/cindy.asp) might be interesting. Another good article is one from the [Wall Street Journal](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120839617218221679.html?mod=special_page_campaign2008_leftbox) in April. > [@](#): > > Last month, while Sen. McCain was touring Europe and Iraq to show his foreign-policy credentials, Mrs. McCain flew into postwar Kosovo on a mission to clear land mines. It was the latest of several trips she has made in recent years as part of a detonation team. She also supports the charity arranging the trips by serving on its board and making donations. Read that again. She went to Kosovo **to clear land mines**. She also gives the organization and seveal others money. But she has actually gone and helped clear the mines herself. Creepy? We all should be so creepy. Has she had a life of privilege? Yes. Has she been generous in giving back to society? Also yes. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162/40 "2008-07-12T03:54:22Z")
I doubt she literally cleared any landmines herself. The philanthropy is nice, but really pretty easy for someone like her. I think she’d serve herself better by not _pilfering_ from her charities, and her philanthropy does not make her appear any less vain or shallow, but yeah, she’s throws a few pennies in the kettle now and then. Bully for her. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-creeped-out-by-cindy-mccain/456162.md?page=3)