# Anyone else fearing a red wave? (Or at most, a blue ripple?) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 28, 2018, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633 "2018-10-28T14:54:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/261 "2018-11-01T19:00:56Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That’s not what Democrats who support ICE abolition want to do though. They want less enforcement or no enforcement at all except for felons, but don’t want to take the heat that actually changing the law would generate. Yeah, the horrible heat like more money for SocSec and affordable produce. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/262 "2018-11-01T19:04:16Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > One thing I am seeing as a reason to be optimistic. I live in a very liberal area, and one thing I’m seeing now that I have never seen in any other election, including Presidential years, is that casual acquaintances and even total strangers chatting in the grocery checkout line or whatever, are dropping “Don’t forget to vote!” into the conversation. > > Anyone else noticing this? Anyone in conservative areas? I haven’t, but two separate people (a friend, and my wife) in the last 24 hours have mentioned getting some [Remember to Vote Worms](https://www.voteworms.com/). I wish I’d known about these earlier! ---
**Author:** ![EscAlaMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/escalamike/32/4177_2.png) [@EscAlaMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EscAlaMike)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/263 "2018-11-01T19:10:33Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Wow, that’s weird. Is that how most of Alabama is, or is there something especially weird about your locality? 😕 I don’t know. It might be different in the bigger cities, but it just seems to me that urging someone to vote is not exactly polite conversation. There’s a place for it, sure, but in casual conversation, especially with strangers? I don’t see it. ---
**Author:** ![EscAlaMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/escalamike/32/4177_2.png) [@EscAlaMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EscAlaMike)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/264 "2018-11-01T19:12:52Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > They are probably afraid a minority will overhear them and then have the nerve to vote. Yeah, those damn white people voting. How dare they! ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/265 "2018-11-01T19:42:47Z")
> [@EscAlaMike](#): > > I don’t know. It might be different in the bigger cities, but it just seems to me that urging someone to vote is not exactly polite conversation. = Whereas here, when we see the president calling Democrats “crazy” and “mobs,” calling Nazis “good people”; when the government is locking up children in order to terrorize refugees into not seeking asylum; when our transgender friends are seeing their identities erased by the federal government; when my county sheriff is a choice between a 25-year veteran who wants to encourage de-escalation and a business-owner with no law enforcement experience who wants to crack down on opioid addicts with increased prosecutions and who thinks de-escalation is a failed social experiment; Around my parts, politeness is a luxury no longer afforded to us. It sounds like politics doesn’t have much impact on your life. That’s great. Your experience isn’t universal. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/266 "2018-11-01T19:54:04Z")
> [@EscAlaMike](#): > > Yeah, those damn white people voting. How dare they! White people are a minority in Alabama? Man, I must have missed some news. ---
**Author:** ![EscAlaMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/escalamike/32/4177_2.png) [@EscAlaMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EscAlaMike)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/267 "2018-11-01T19:56:35Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > It sounds like politics doesn’t have much impact on your life. Isn’t that the ideal? ---
**Author:** ![EscAlaMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/escalamike/32/4177_2.png) [@EscAlaMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EscAlaMike)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/268 "2018-11-01T19:59:02Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > White people are a minority in Alabama? Man, I must have missed some news. In many parts of the state, including my hometown, yes whites are the minority. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/269 "2018-11-01T20:09:19Z")
> [@EscAlaMike](#): > > I don’t know. It might be different in the bigger cities, but it just seems to me that urging someone to vote is not exactly polite conversation. There’s a place for it, sure, but in casual conversation, especially with strangers? I don’t see it. What’s impolite about it? It’s a shared civic duty. I encourage others to vote, regardless of who I expect them to vote for. It’s not like the act of voting is controversial or subversive. When you encourage people to vote, it’s not like you’re encouraging someone to take a particular side on a political issue. Or maybe you are, if the governing structure of your state or locality depends on an apathetic electorate so that the people in power can continue to run things without anyone looking over their shoulders. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/270 "2018-11-01T20:09:41Z")
> [@EscAlaMike](#): > > In many parts of the state, including my hometown, yes whites are the minority. Well then my point stands. They probably don’t want those pesky white people knowing it’s time to vote! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/271 "2018-11-01T20:10:38Z")
> [@EscAlaMike](#): > > In many parts of the state, including my hometown, yes whites are the minority. We have faith that you will somehow find the strength to bear this cross. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/272 "2018-11-01T20:13:04Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Well then my point stands. They probably don’t want those pesky white people knowing it’s time to vote! > > 🙂 More likely, the whites don’t want the blacks to get organized and actually start running the local government. That happened in one county next door in Georgia, and Brian Kemp (who may be the next governor of Georgia) hounded the new leadership, along with the people who had busily registered enough blacks so that they were a majority. ---
**Author:** ![EscAlaMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/escalamike/32/4177_2.png) [@EscAlaMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EscAlaMike)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/273 "2018-11-01T20:17:29Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > We have faith that you will somehow find the strength to bear this cross. 😉 Implying that I’m racist, even if done with a wink and smile, is not funny. Or maybe you’re just admitting that you’re a racist without technically admitting it? You know, the whole accusation is confession thing… ---
**Author:** ![EscAlaMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/escalamike/32/4177_2.png) [@EscAlaMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EscAlaMike)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/274 "2018-11-01T20:19:09Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > What’s impolite about it? It’s a shared civic duty. I encourage others to vote, regardless of who I expect them to vote for. I don’t know, it’s just seen as something that nobody’s business I guess. ---
**Author:** ![EscAlaMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/escalamike/32/4177_2.png) [@EscAlaMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EscAlaMike)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/275 "2018-11-01T20:20:25Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > More likely, the whites don’t want the blacks to get organized and actually start running the local government. That happened in one county next door in Georgia, and Brian Kemp (who may be the next governor of Georgia) hounded the new leadership, along with the people who had busily registered enough blacks so that they were a majority. Why must you read evil intentions into everything? Maybe we’re just trying to get along with each other and provide for our families. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/276 "2018-11-01T20:27:44Z")
> [@EscAlaMike](#): > > In many parts of the state, including my hometown, yes whites are the minority. [Alabama State Senators](http://www.legislature.state.al.us/aliswww/ISD/Senate/ALSenators.aspx) [Alabama State Representatives](http://www.legislature.state.al.us/aliswww/ISD/House/ALRepresentatives.aspx) [Alabama Senators](https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/AL) [Alabama Representatives](https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/AL#representatives) [White Republican Governor](https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1WPZB_enUS807US807&ei=Yl7bW9iIIIvAsAXqmKq4Ag&q=alabama+governor&oq=Alabama+Governior&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0i13l10.647964.652483..654580...1.0..0.218.2654.0j17j1....2..0....1..gws-wiz.......0j0i71j35i39j0i131j0i67j0i131i67j0i131i20i263j0i20i263j0i131i10j0i10.fjjMhDKkI3s) When it comes to discrimination, I don’t think you have much to worry about. ---
**Author:** ![EscAlaMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/escalamike/32/4177_2.png) [@EscAlaMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EscAlaMike)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/277 "2018-11-01T20:34:49Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > When it comes to discrimination, I don’t think you have much to worry about. Better wear sunglasses when checking out Oregon’s delegation. I might go blind from all the whiteness. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/278 "2018-11-01T20:39:06Z")
> [@EscAlaMike](#): > > Better wear sunglasses when checking out Oregon’s delegation. I might go blind from all the whiteness. I’m not claiming to be a poor underrepresented white guy, am I? ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/279 "2018-11-01T20:41:57Z")
If somehow the GOP does well Tues with all the anti immigration stuff being the focus, they will double down on that for 2020. It will be much worse than this year. ---
**Author:** ![EscAlaMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/escalamike/32/4177_2.png) [@EscAlaMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EscAlaMike)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633/280 "2018-11-01T20:42:01Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I’m not claiming to be a poor underrepresented white guy, am I? Well shit, neither am I. I was stating a demographic fact, not complaining. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-fearing-a-red-wave-or-at-most-a-blue-ripple/823633.md?page=15)