# Anyone else freeze in bars/restaurants in the summer? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 10, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-freeze-in-bars-restaurants-in-the-summer/836855 "2019-07-10T18:59:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-freeze-in-bars-restaurants-in-the-summer/836855/21 "2019-10-31T11:45:49Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > people wear lighter/less clothing in the summer than in the winter. > (…) they’re going to be comfortable at a warmer **indoor** temperature in the summer than in the winter. > [@gkster](#): > > The other thing that annoys me apart from the personal discomfort is the waste of electricity and the contribution to climate change: “global energy consumption for space cooling has over tripled in the last three decades from approximately 600 terawatt hours in 1990 to 2,000 terawatt hours in 2016.” This last summer, one of my local power companies had a series of ads on how to save energy. In one of them, the Chirpy Lady Worried About Your Bill said that “in the summer, the thermostat should be set at 25C”. The first time I heard it was in a cafeteria which had previously been full of noisy women; when the ad came up there was a wave of shushing, and when that line finished there was a general exclamation of “25? Does she think we’re fish sticks?” A quick poll showed that those of us who had A/C (including the cafeteria, which at that point had the doors wide open and the A/C off) would keep it at 30-32. Whomever had created that campaign apparently hadn’t started by figuring out the actual habits of their actual clients. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-freeze-in-bars-restaurants-in-the-summer/836855/22 "2019-10-31T11:46:48Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > It’s 30 C (86 F) here right now. I came down to the pub for a couple of beers and can’t stand the air conditioning. > > I’m wearing a t-shirt, shorts and sandals and am freezing my ass off! This happens to me often. There’s no excuse for having the A/C cranked to 21 C (70) in the bloody summertime. This is normal room temperature in the winter when I’m like fully dressed, and heat is blowing on me, not cold. I think you represent a distinct minority if you are “freezing your ass off” at 70 degrees even if you are only wearing shorts and a T-shirt. Like you, my SiL is very sensitive to cold but, recognizing that it is her and not all of them, she compensates for it by having a sweater with her when she goes into air-conditioned establishments which, nowadays, is virtually all of them. She even brings small blankets into movie theaters to cover her legs. Please don’t expect everyone to sweat at 86 degrees because you are cold at 70 degrees. It’s not realistic. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-freeze-in-bars-restaurants-in-the-summer/836855/23 "2019-10-31T11:49:29Z")
Apparently Jasmine is a fish stick and Leaffan should be moving to Spain 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-freeze-in-bars-restaurants-in-the-summer/836855/24 "2019-10-31T11:56:27Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Wow, that deteriorated quickly. 😃 > > Yeah, not just bars and restaurants. The apartments where I currently live have a central air-con system and it runs 24/7 (unless you turn it off for your own unit). > > Now given it’s often 40c outside, the air-con is welcomed, but every now and again I need to go out onto the balcony to ‘warm up’ a bit. And after 5 min, I’m back inside loving the aircon. I’m sure I’m missing something, but if you can turn it off for your own unit, what’s the issue? Or are you saying you have to go outside and cut the power to the compressor (or flip a breaker inside) that runs you’re specific unit. If that’'s the case, that is odd, why isn’t there a t-stat in the apartment? Either way, you might try cracking a window, just a little. You can probably find a way to make the heat and cool mix just right. In my college apartment the 6 other people that I lived with never quite understood how to get the heat working correctly so it was always either freezing or really hot. Instead of arguing with them everyday so they’d do it right, I just kept the room to my door closed and cracked the window. It really didn’t matter how hot they set it, it was easy to make my room comfortable by letting a little cool winter air in. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-freeze-in-bars-restaurants-in-the-summer/836855/25 "2019-10-31T12:09:31Z")
I usually don’t even notice. I like it when it’s cold. At home I spend most of my time in the basement where it’s at least 10 degrees cooler than the rest of the house at all times. Than again, I’m that guy that’s sitting on the beach in jeans and work boots. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-freeze-in-bars-restaurants-in-the-summer/836855/26 "2019-10-31T12:11:36Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Apparently Jasmine is a fish stick and Leaffan should be moving to Spain 😃 I’ve visited Spain. I could absolutely live there! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-freeze-in-bars-restaurants-in-the-summer/836855.md?page=1)