# Anyone else getting LOGO tomorrow?

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**Created:** [June 29, 2005, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347 "2005-06-29T12:36:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/1 "2005-06-29T12:36:51Z")

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MTV networks is launching LOGO tomorrow, one of a number of new gay-themed channels that have come into existence in the US over the last year or so. LOGO’s website is amazingly sparse considering there are just over 36 hours before the launch, but from a USA Today article online:

> [@](#):
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> MTV Networks’ newest channel will fill more than half of its 24-hour lineup with a library of 200 gay-themed theatrical films such as Philadelphia, The Birdcage and Kissing Jessica Stein.
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> It has acquired repeat rights to HBO’s Emmy-winning Angels in America.
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> Logo also has a partnership with CBS News for stories of interest to the gay community, and plans Momentum, a documentary series with topics ranging from gay rappers to lesbian surfers.
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> The network’s first program Thursday is The Evolution Will Be Televised (9 p.m. ET/PT), a 90-minute documentary on the emerging visibility of gay Americans.
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> Logo will provide the first TV coverage of the GLAAD Media Awards, honoring positive portrayals in entertainment (July 24).
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> But the channel’s hot tickets are likely to be original series programming. Noah’s Arc (due in October) is a dramedy about a struggling black screenwriter in Los Angeles and his three friends.
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> Logo’s other fresh programming will consist of MTV-style music and reality series such as Open Bar (September), about a man’s coming-out process as he opens a West Hollywood gay bar; Round Trip Ticket (Friday 11 ET/PT), a world travel series; and First Comes Love (Monday, 10 ET/PT), in which Scott Thompson (Kids in the Hall) helps gay male and lesbian couples plan dream weddings.
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> Wednesday nights will focus on music, Thursday is comedy night and Friday’s emphasis is travel.

I’m looking forward to it with a mixture of interest and trepidation. 200 movies in the library, two of them being Philadelphia and The Birdcage? _Lots_ of repeats. I can’t tell from the website whether the movies are going to be edited for content or commercial interruption, either of which would totally suck. A couple of the original series sound interesting. However it turns out it is going to be the only game in (my) town for original gay programming so I’ll certainly give it a shot, but I hope viewers aren’t going to be taken for granted under the “only game in town” theory.

Check your local listings.

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/2 "2005-06-29T14:12:43Z")

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I wish I could have access to it; Noah’s Arc sounds like it might be worth watching. Plus, from the website: “Surfer Girls: By weekday these lesbians are doctors, lawyers and realtors, but their weekends are all about the waves.” Sounds like the network is already trying to draw outside its niche. 😉

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/3 "2005-06-29T14:35:46Z")

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I tried and tried and tried to contact those SOBs, to send them a show proposal. They had no message machine on their phone; no e-mail; _no way of getting in touch with them_. Needless to say, I also don;t get the station (I don’t have digital cable).

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/4 "2005-06-29T15:52:47Z")

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You can contact them [here](http://www.logoonline.com/cgi-bin/cs.cgi) although it’s probably not the best way to get a show proposal to them.

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**Author:** ![chaoticbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@chaoticbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaoticbear)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/5 "2005-06-29T16:09:02Z")

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**Otto** , I thought that you lived in Canada? I’ll have go move your pin on my GayMap.

I requested that it be shown, but in an Arkansas town of 60 thousand, I doubt the public’s going to go for it. They’ve probably gotten as many calls from people wanting it as people saying that they’ll cancel their cable if it makes it on the air.

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**Author:** ![Liz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/liz/32/17737_2.png) [@Liz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liz)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/6 "2005-06-29T16:25:06Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> I tried and tried and tried to contact those SOBs, to send them a show proposal. They had no message machine on their phone; no e-mail; _no way of getting in touch with them_. Needless to say, I also don;t get the station (I don’t have digital cable).

Logo is a subchannel of MTV, which is owned by Viacom – maybe you could contact Logo through them? Their info is [here](http://viacom.com/contactus.jhtml;jsessionid=VJL45SUKJWKRMCQBAFLQ4CY).

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**Author:** ![Liz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/liz/32/17737_2.png) [@Liz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liz)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/7 "2005-06-29T16:27:16Z")

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Oh, and I’m not getting it. Because, you know, we need 50 versions of Showtime, 100 music channels, and the Golf Channel, but god forbid we get the one gay network in existance.

But I’m not bitter.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/8 "2005-06-29T18:46:12Z")

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> [@chaoticdonkey](#):
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> **Otto** , I thought that you lived in Canada? I’ll have go move your pin on my GayMap.

Yeah I can see how you’d think that, what with my location being noted _in every single post I’ve ever made_ as Madison, Wisconsin.

> [@chatelaine](#):
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> Oh, and I’m not getting it. Because, you know, we need 50 versions of Showtime, 100 music channels, and the Golf Channel, but god forbid we get the one gay network in existance.

There are actually three so-called gay networks in the US. LOGO, here! and another one whose name escapes me. Canada also has one called IIRC PrideVision, and I seem to remember hearing that France has one (that’s apparently rather porn-heavy).

Regardless, I feel your pain.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/9 "2005-06-29T19:16:48Z")

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> [@chatelaine](#):
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> Logo is a subchannel of MTV, which is owned by Viacom – maybe you could contact Logo through them? Their info is [here](http://viacom.com/contactus.jhtml;jsessionid=VJL45SUKJWKRMCQBAFLQ4CY).

Tried it. They won’t accept a submission without a submissions form, and _there is no way to request a submissions form_.

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**Author:** ![FilmGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@FilmGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FilmGeek)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/10 "2005-06-29T22:42:21Z")

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I live in Kansas.

☹

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/11 "2005-06-29T23:00:09Z")

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> [@FilmGeek](#):
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> I live in Kansas.

You call that living?

**Eve** , you live in NYC, I say you storm the Viacom offices. At 1515 Broadway, New York, NY 10036. (212) 258-6000.

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**Author:** ![supervenusfreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@supervenusfreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supervenusfreak)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/12 "2005-06-29T23:58:08Z")

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> [@FilmGeek](#):
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> I live in Kansas.
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> ☹

So did Dorothy.

Looks like the only way we are going to get it here in Amishland, is if I get a satellite dish…sigh.

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**Author:** ![chaoticbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@chaoticbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaoticbear)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2005, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/13 "2005-06-30T04:57:48Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> Yeah I can see how you’d think that, what with my location being noted _in every single post I’ve ever made_ as Madison, Wisconsin.

_closes eyes, isn’t listening, **Otto** lives in Canada, my sister was never eaten by that crocodile, but he took her to the farm to play softball_

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**Author:** ![Liz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/liz/32/17737_2.png) [@Liz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liz)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2005, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/14 "2005-06-30T06:08:48Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> There are actually three so-called gay networks in the US. LOGO, here! and another one whose name escapes me. Canada also has one called IIRC PrideVision, and I seem to remember hearing that France has one (that’s apparently rather porn-heavy).
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> Regardless, I feel your pain.

Mhm. We were supposed to be getting Here! at some point, but no-go on that, too. Fucking aggravating. Be sure to let us know what you think of it?

> [@Eve](#):
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> Tried it. They won’t accept a submission without a submissions form, and _there is no way to request a submissions form_.

Well, what in the blue fuck. Did they tell you flat-out that you couldn’t have a submissions form, or did they just not offer up information as to where you could get one?

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**Author:** ![supervenusfreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@supervenusfreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supervenusfreak)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2005, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/15 "2005-06-30T14:09:09Z")

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> [@chatelaine](#):
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> Mhm. We were supposed to be getting Here! at some point, but no-go on that, too. Fucking aggravating. Be sure to let us know what you think of it?

We do have Here! here, as part of the pay-per-view service that is offered. I looked over the list of available movies, and have not found anything that isn’t available through Netflix. I have not tried any of the original programming that they offer.

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**Author:** ![Liz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/liz/32/17737_2.png) [@Liz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liz)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2005, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/16 "2005-06-30T14:17:15Z")

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Oh, okay. I was asking **Otto** about Logo, which I didn’t make clear through my drugged-up haze! It’s good to get an opinion on Here!, too, though. We were supposed to get it as part of InDemand, as well, but I’ve yet to find it if Adelphia is offering it in these parts.

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**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/17 "2005-06-30T15:46:21Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> website

Thanks for the link to their site. From there, I was able to determine that DirecTV isn’t carrying LOGO “yet.”

I’ve sent DTV an email. I agree that the programming seems a little sparse, but if the channel manages to hook up with a few major distributors, the programming will follow.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/18 "2005-07-01T15:29:43Z")

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LOGO interrupts its movies with commercials. Ugh.

LOGO edits for content. Double ugh.

I hate watching movies with commercial interruptions, but I simply will not watch them edited for content. It’s a channel supposedly dedicated to gay and lesbian people, and they edit the nudity out of the love scene in _Desert Hearts_? Why? I see _Bent_ is on the schedule; not quite sure how you show _Bent_ without the sexual content. DH is the only movie I’ve seen any of and I really don’t remember any swearing, so I can’t tell yet whether LOGO is also editing for language. Doesn’t really matter, since I won’t be watching any more movies. But some of the original series look interesting, and they’re going to be showing _Wonderfalls_. I think I’ll dash off an email to LOGO and bitch about the editing, though. Really, really stupid.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/19 "2005-07-01T15:34:18Z")

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Or maybe I won’t, since there seems to be no email contact information anywhere on the site that I can find.

I did find this, though, about pitching new shows:

> [@LOGO](#):
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> How can I pitch a show idea to Logo?
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> While we appreciate the enthusiasm of our viewers who may feel that they have a great idea for the next big Logo program, experience has shown that many of the ideas or materials submitted by such individuals embody materials, suggestions or ideas substantially similar or identical to those which have been developed by our staff or which have been submitted by others. Further, we may begin using material similar to that which we received after the date of such a submission, completely unrelated to that submission. For these reasons, Logo unfortunately cannot accept and will not review unsolicited submissions.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-logo-tomorrow/310347/20 "2005-07-01T15:44:55Z")

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> [@Uvula Donor](#):
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> Thanks for the link to their site. From there, I was able to determine that DirecTV isn’t carrying LOGO “yet.”
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> I’ve sent DTV an email. I agree that the programming seems a little sparse, but if the channel manages to hook up with a few major distributors, the programming will follow.

I have DirecTV and there was a channel listing for LOGO last night. They were showing that Lauren Ambrose movie, Psycho Beach Party. I was tickled to have it, but it was late, and I didn’t stay up long enough to check out what else was on the schedule.

Unless that wasn’t LOGO and DTV was foolin’ with me.

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