# Anyone else getting tired of Una's delusions?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 24, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716 "2012-03-24T21:53:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/21 "2012-03-25T01:40:52Z")

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> [@Faruiza](#):
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> Is this what is meant by, “Shit just got real up in this bitch?”

Well…I’m not quite sure…I mean, I kind of get the gist of what that saying might be saying in a kind of impressionistic way, so I guess I could say, yes…but, it’s possible it is really saying the exact opposite of what I think its saying…so, maybe?

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/22 "2012-03-25T01:50:35Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Nope. Just worked very hard and made good life decisions. I don’t agree with the hate on that part of the pitting.

Believe me, I personally don’t have a problem with **una**. This ain’t my fight. It’s just that when people come out with “But I worked hard!”, I automatically think “Do you think you’re the only one?”

Anyway, I seriously do not have a problem with **una** , but the post I quoted from her arched my eyebrow.

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/23 "2012-03-25T01:56:24Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Care to elaborate? At least for our entertainment, if nothing else?

Your post was dumb. **You** are dumb. You are one of the boards consistently stupid posters, and I thought it was hilarious you were trying to snark on **Una** , someone who, from everything I’ve seen, is one of the board’s smartest, most helpful posters.

Is that enough elaboration, or shall I go on about how idiotic you are?

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/24 "2012-03-25T02:04:21Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Nope. Just worked very hard and made good life decisions.

And got extremely lucky. Multiple times, I’d imagine.

For example: No major congenital disorders. No major acquired disorders. Very likely no major history of parental abuse/neglect/etc. No major accidents such as being hit by a drunk driver and left mentally negligible. And so on.

People don’t like to think of how lucky they had to have been to even be as well-off as they are.

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**Author:** ![keeganst94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a6a055/32.png) [@keeganst94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keeganst94)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/25 "2012-03-25T02:18:18Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally posted by **miss elizabeth**  
> Nope. Just worked very hard and made good life decisions.

But that’s not really the issue. If she’s succesful, good for her. I congratulate her. But to go into a thread about somebody who (hypothetically) desperately needs a job and say “Well I wouldn’t know, and don’t need to, because I’m so rich and succesful”, is not only a thread shit, it’s a shitty, unnecessary, bitchy thing to do.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/26 "2012-03-25T02:19:11Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> And got extremely lucky. Multiple times, I’d imagine.
> 
> For example: No major congenital disorders. No major acquired disorders. Very likely no major history of parental abuse/neglect/etc. No major accidents such as being hit by a drunk driver and left mentally negligible. And so on.
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> People don’t like to think of how lucky they had to have been to even be as well-off as they are.

You make a good point. I should say that she has, from what I can tell, done really well with the skills that she has.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/27 "2012-03-25T02:32:34Z")

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**billfish678** , yup, we’ve taken different positions in debates. Do you also believe that I insulted you horribly in those debates and have since waged a campaign of insults and personal slurs against you? Do you believe that I go around misrepresenting what you say?

Again, I have no hate on **Una** , just irritation that she has a delusion about me of having a campaign against her. Her knowledge about her area is deep. This thread, with my admitting that I have been trying to avoid her and why, and my comment in the IMHO thread linked to, are the worst things I think I have ever said about her.

And I am tired of her saying that about me. Telling **Una** that she is wrong is not hating on her and not a campaign against her.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/28 "2012-03-25T02:40:09Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> **billfish678** , yup, we’ve taken different positions in debates. Do you also believe that I insulted you horribly in those debates and have since waged a campaign of insults and personal slurs against you? Do you believe that I go around misrepresenting what you say?  
> .

No, I’d say you are pretty level headed and fair debate wise (but always wrong IMO 🙂 ).

I guess my point was if I often disagree with you (and have no running beef with Una) and still agree with you that Una was a bit over the top in that job thread my opinion is probably a bit less biased than if I was your bestest friend and or I had some serious issues with Una (which I most certainly don’t).

Again, I think Una was over the top in that one. But then again everyone royally screws up once in awhile too…

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/29 "2012-03-25T02:53:05Z")

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> [@Duke](#):
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> Nevertheless, we wanted to support the Unaboard for the role it had in getting us together. After discussing it, we decided to send **Una** $100 through an intermediary. I know $100 isn’t really that much…

Ok, but surely it deserves a mention that Una hasn’t solicited funds for years, has in the past turned down funds for the board’s upkeep, and has covered the costs of it with Fierra for years. She posted spreadsheets for a while: IIRC the totals summed to about $1000/yr. The board is now on a separate server: I have no idea what that costs - probably/possibly less. Also all contributions were anonymous as they were donated through an intermediary.

What happened was unfortunate, but I thought that some of the facts needed to be rounded out.

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/30 "2012-03-25T03:17:23Z")

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> [@Duke](#):
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> I am hesitant to post this, knowing that there are going to be people in this thread who are going to snipe at me for being “jealous of **Una** ’s success.” What the fuck ever.
> 
> About six years ago, **tygre** and were members of the Unaboard. At the suggestion of our mutual friend **Sparteye** , she and I started talking to each other, which led to us dating, which led to us getting married. Understandably I felt indebted to the Unaboard and **Una** and **fierra**.
> 
> Around that time, **Una** started making a lot of noises about how much the Unaboard cost her, and hinted about how much a burden it was. I was surprised by that, but, hey, I had no idea how much VBulletin software and hosting space cost, so I assumed this was a real financial burden on her. She never actually started actively soliciting donations, but she made it clear that they wouldn’t be turned away, and it was suggested that donations would ensure the continued existence of the board.
> 
> At the time, **tygre** and her kids were moving out here from Illinois. We weren’t broke, but we weren’t exactly flush with cash either. **tygre** had to quit her job to move out here, we had to move into a bigger apartment, and I started putting her through grad school. Nevertheless, we wanted to support the Unaboard for the role it had in getting us together. After discussing it, we decided to send **Una** $100 through an intermediary. I know $100 isn’t really that much, and now with both of us in good jobs we wouldn’t think it was that much, but at the time it was a big deal to us. I’m always willing to support things which I think are deserving of help; it’s why I’m working for a soup kitchen free of charge, it’s why I’m volunteering my consulting services for various organizations from California to the UK.
> 
> Well, a couple months after that, **Una** started talking about how much she was making, how she was “agonizing” over whether to buy a Corvette or a Porsche, how she had thousand-dollar dresses in her closet, and all kinds of other things that made it very clear: she didn’t need our money at all to run the Unaboard. And, frankly, I felt very cheated by that. She’d strongly insinuated that our money might be the difference between having an Unaboard and not having one. She _knew_ that our financial situation wasn’t great, but she still cashed our check. The Unaboard wouldn’t have even cost her more than one car payment, for several years’ operation.
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> Yeah, it was six years ago, but I still feel like I was taken for a fool by **Una**. I eventually left the Unaboard, even though I had to leave so many friends behind. It’s not even the money that got me. We give away many times more than that in charity every year and we know we’re not getting any return from it. Even if **Una** had said, “Look, the Unaboard costs money, and I’d like to ask for everyone’s fair share,” that would have been cool. It was the implication that without the money she couldn’t have afforded to run it. I can’t stay anywhere where I feel cheated.
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> You think I want **Una** ’s life? I sure don’t. I love being able to sleep at night.

You have got to be kidding me. Let me see if I have this right:

You wrote **Una** a check that you felt you couldn’t afford because she mentioned that the cost of the board might be more than she wanted or could continue. She didn’t solicit donations, but you made one. She cashed the check. You have the balls to come on here years later and whine about it because it wouldn’t have even been one car payment to cover the check you willingly wrote? And to top it off you end your whinefest with the idea that YOU like to be able to SLEEP at night unlike that miserly ol **Una** who cashed your check? Jaysus Christmas, you need to get a grip on yourself.

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/31 "2012-03-25T03:38:45Z")

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> [@keeganst94](#):
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> But that’s not really the issue. If she’s succesful, good for her. I congratulate her. But to go into a thread about somebody who (hypothetically) desperately needs a job and say “Well I wouldn’t know, and don’t need to, because I’m so rich and succesful”, is not only a thread shit, it’s a shitty, unnecessary, bitchy thing to do.

Just wanted to point out your quote was actually **hajario** , not me.

Also, I don’t think it’s very bitchy to post in a HYPOTHETICAL job searching thread that she doesn’t need a job. If it were a thread by a real poster, with real problems, it would be bitchy. But in a hypothetical thread, no.

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/32 "2012-03-25T03:41:38Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> Also, I don’t think it’s very bitchy to post in a HYPOTHETICAL job searching thread that she doesn’t need a job. If it were a thread by a real poster, with real problems, it would be bitchy. But in a hypothetical thread, no.

One step farther… Not just a hypothetical job searching thread. A ridiculously premised one. That thread was only about four turns away from one of **Skald’s** fantasy what-ifs.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/33 "2012-03-25T03:43:56Z")

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Having only a passing notice of Una, I will admit that she seems like a nutcase when it comes to guns. At least from my vague recollections.

That said, aren’t we all nutcases about something? 😃

As to the OP, she’s certainly a complete piece of shit if you measure her only by that post. Una may think she’s a hard worker, but there are any number of waitresses that work harder than she does. Shit, any number of migrant fruit pickers could give a days work that would leave her dead or dying. That doesn’t make them better people, or more worthy of respect. Neither does whatever job Una is engaged in at the moment. And preening like a peacock about all those job offers \*you \*have, in the middle of the recovery of the hugest recession in three generations is pretty shitty form.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/34 "2012-03-25T03:46:14Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> Your post was dumb. **You** are dumb. You are one of the boards consistently stupid posters

Yep. The banning of gonzomax and Dio has really moved ElvisLives up in the ranks.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/35 "2012-03-25T03:47:20Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Yep. The banning of gonzomax and Dio has really moved ElvisLives up in the ranks.

Now that you wear the crown, you feeling nervous about all the knaves ready to topple you?

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/36 "2012-03-25T03:47:46Z")

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> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#):
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> You have got to be kidding me. Let me see if I have this right:
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> You wrote **Una** a check that you felt you couldn’t afford because she mentioned that the cost of the board might be more than she wanted or could continue. She didn’t solicit donations, but you made one. She cashed the check. You have the balls to come on here years later and whine about it because it wouldn’t have even been one car payment to cover the check you willingly wrote? And to top it off you end your whinefest with the idea that YOU like to be able to SLEEP at night unlike that miserly ol **Una** who cashed your check? Jaysus Christmas, you need to get a grip on yourself.

Amen and amen. Duke is just about one of the worst humans breathing.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/37 "2012-03-25T03:50:41Z")

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> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#):
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> One step farther… Not just a hypothetical job searching thread. A ridiculously premised one. That thread was only about four turns away from one of **Skald’s** fantasy what-ifs.

Oh bull fucking shit. No offense to Skald but the OP thread wasn’t remotely fantasy. A person desperate for a job? I think those are rather common these days. Asking for your social network/forum accounts? Have you been keeping up with the news lately?

One condition is almost a given. The second is just a minor twist on whats actually been making news.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/38 "2012-03-25T03:53:10Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Now that you wear the crown, you feeling nervous about all the knaves ready to topple you?

. . . says #3.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/39 "2012-03-25T03:53:37Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Ok, but surely it deserves a mention that Una hasn’t solicited funds for years, has in the past turned down funds for the board’s upkeep, and has covered the costs of it with Fierra for years.

IIRC the solicitations for funds stopped around the time **Una** started talking about how she made loads and loads of money. I think she realized that after she started on that tack it was hard to elicit money from board members, a lot of whom were going through financial hardships far worse than anything I ever dealt with.

> [@Sleeps with Butterflies](#):
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> You wrote Una a check that you felt you couldn’t afford because she mentioned that the cost of the board might be more than she wanted or could continue. She didn’t solicit donations, but you made one. She cashed the check. You have the balls to come on here years later and whine about it because it wouldn’t have even been one car payment to cover the check you willingly wrote? And to top it off you end your whinefest with the idea that YOU like to be able to SLEEP at night unlike that miserly ol Una who cashed your check? Jaysus Christmas, you need to get a grip on yourself.

Firstly, I never said I couldn’t afford it. I’m not in the habit of making donations I can’t afford.

Secondly, if she actually did explicitly solicit donations I wouldn’t have been upset about it. As I said, if she stepped forward and said, “Look, this board costs money, and I’d like to ask if posters can pay their fair share,” I never would have had a problem with things. It was her implication that she couldn’t afford to pay for the board and that the future of the board was in jeopardy that bothered me…after it came out that the future of the board was never in jeopardy and that she could have always easily afforded to pay for the board. (And if she “didn’t solicit donations” why didn’t she just send back everyone’s donations? Are you in the habit of cashing checks you haven’t earned or asked for?)

Thirdly, I’m saying this now, to be honest, because of people like you **Sleeps**. You weren’t there when this happened and have no idea what was going on, but you have no problem defending her. I really don’t understand why, when the slightest criticism of **Una** appears, she has many people popping up to say “But **Una** is so smart and helpful and successful!” Aren’t there a lot of posters like that here, though? And what do those things have to do with her falsely accusing **DSeid** of waging a “campaign of slurs and insults” against her, or taking cash under false pretenses? Are “smart, helpful, and successful” people incapable of doing those things? Should we give a pass to behavior like that because of other, totally unrelated reasons?

Lastly, it honestly doesn’t matter whether it was six years ago or six days ago. I shut up about it for a long time and pretty much forgot about it all until this thread. I’ve noticed that anybody who speaks the slightest ill about **Una** gets accused of having some kind of longstanding conspiracy against her, and is often claimed to be in cahoots with unnamed “trolls” on Boards Which Shall Not Be Named. Frankly, I don’t care about anybody enough on this board or any other board to put in that kind of effort. All I know is that if it hadn’t been for that incident, I’d probably still be happily posting on the UnaBoard, and I’d probably be defending her just like you are now. But it did happen, and I feel I have a right to talk about it.

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-getting-tired-of-unas-delusions/616716/40 "2012-03-25T03:54:16Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Oh bull fucking shit. No offense to Skald but the OP thread wasn’t remotely fantasy. A person desperate for a job? I think those are rather common these days. Asking for your social network/forum accounts? Have you been keeping up with the news lately?
> 
> One condition is almost a given. The second is just a minor twist on whats actually been making news lately.

Oh yes, because it’ is ALL over the news that not only are MOST employers asking for Facebook log-in details they are now digging deeper to asking for log-in details and passwords for smallish message boards that most people haven’t heard of. So right you are!

Give me a break. A couple of news organizations run with a vague story about a few reports of a couple of companies asking about Facebook and suddenly this is a reasonable hypothetical? Allow me to describe for you some land I have for sale in the tropical climate of Florida…

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