# Anyone else not like poker commentary?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-not-like-poker-commentary/376480>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 15, 2006, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-not-like-poker-commentary/376480 "2006-10-15T01:29:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-not-like-poker-commentary/376480/41 "2006-11-06T06:38:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Eleusis]

I know you, man.

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Not quite sure what you’re trying to say.

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**Author:** ![Mayo\_Speaks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mayo\_Speaks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mayo_Speaks)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-not-like-poker-commentary/376480/42 "2006-11-06T13:14:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Eleusis]  
UGH!

NO!

I like Gabe the best. :smack:

Actually, Gabe should be sitting at the table, if you ask me.  
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In season 3, Gabe actually will be sitting at the table. Should be interesting.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-not-like-poker-commentary/376480/43 "2006-11-06T13:18:04Z")

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> Another factor is that poker coverage focuses on the least interesting form of poker there is - shallow stack late-stage tournament poker.

This is why I really enjoy first- through third-quarter action of the PPT tournaments. You get to see the deep-stack strategy, which is so much more interesting.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2006, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-not-like-poker-commentary/376480/44 "2006-11-08T07:18:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Gadarene]  
This is why I really enjoy first- through third-quarter action of the PPT tournaments. You get to see the deep-stack strategy, which is so much more interesting.  
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Tournaments like that are usually structured that no one ever has more than, say, 50 bets, so I wouldn’t call it “deep stacked” - it’s still a fairly simple game. But certainly it’s more interesting than the 6 bet type short stack play late in a tournament.

Tournaments, as commonly practiced, are really a horrible way to play poker. All of the money is determined at the very end because of the top heavy structure, and at that stage, the stage that determines where all the money goes, is the most crapshooty, unskilled part of the tournament. Both things combine synergystically to produce the most lottery-like poker competition possible.

Not that there isn’t skill and strategy, but tournaments are commonly designed to minimize it.

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