# Anyone else see Tom Cruise on "Today" this morning?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 24, 2005, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661 "2005-06-24T13:04:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/101 "2005-06-26T00:29:41Z")

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> [@Dublin11](#):
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> Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt. WRONG.
> 
> Bono grew up in Dublin.

D’oh! I thought, well, maybe I was thinking of Liam Neeson-isn’t he from Belfast?

:smack:  
(Grover’s Corners is the name of the town in the play _Our Town_. Think happy-sappy, Waltons, Little House on the Prairie type of place).  
**Larry Borgia** , you could always buy a ticket for another movie, and then go into WOTW. I know several people who said they were opting out of seeing WOTW because of Tom’s antics, that ended up making donations to the SHOAH Foundation instead, to support Spielberg.

**Larry Mudd** -I’m sure Matt would have LIKED to have said that, but Tom kept interrupting him.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/102 "2005-06-26T00:46:24Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> **Larry Mudd** -I’m sure Matt would have LIKED to have said that, but Tom kept interrupting him.

Yeah. Way to disrespect the A-R-C triangle, Tom.

If you’re Out-Communication, your Affinity and Reality channels will take a big ol’ Downstat, too.

Hey, look! Tom’s Affinity and Reality with everyone on the freaking planet _is_ in the toilet. Maybe Scientology isn’t _entirely_ hooey.

Oh, wait, that’s from “basic common sense” phase of Dianetics, before you’re obliged to turn off your critical thinking skills and get a second mortgage so you can afford to stay On Course. Never mind.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/103 "2005-06-26T01:39:10Z")

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ARC? I assume that’s some kind of clam term.

When he kept saying “ideal scene”, I believe that’s a $cientology phrase as well.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/104 "2005-06-26T01:46:26Z")

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As any respect I might have had for Tom Cruise goes down\*, my respect for Al Roker goes way up. Too bad he didn’t do the interview.  
\*can you have less than zilch?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/105 "2005-06-26T01:51:48Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> When he kept saying “ideal scene”, I believe that’s a $cientology phrase as well.

Yes.

> [@A Scientology website](#):
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> **Ideal Scenes**  
> An ideal scene expresses what a scene or area ought to be. If one has not envisioned an ideal scene with which to compare the existing scene, he will not be able to recognize departures from it.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/106 "2005-06-26T03:18:53Z")

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I’m as big an anti-$cieno as they come (my favorite nickname, that I still wish I’d used here, is Xenu’s Sister) but no way can I miss this movie. It’s Spielberg and H.G. Wells and ILM, for goodness sake! Must-see for me.

> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> **Larry Borgia** , you could always buy a ticket for another movie, and then go into WOTW.

That’s what I plan to do. I like Spielberg and might do the Shoah donation thing to make up for it. I think it’ll be a huge hit so it isn’t as if it’ll make a difference, but I never pay for $cieno-starring movies anyway. Either I don’t go see them or, if it’s something like Minority Report or WOTW that I’m seeing mainly for another reason (in each case SS), I pay for another movie, one that needs the support more.

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**Author:** ![marymargaret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@marymargaret](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marymargaret)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/107 "2005-06-26T03:26:43Z")

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> [@Larry Mudd](#):
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> You know what would have been sweet?
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> If Lauer responded to Tom’s repeated “Do you know what Ritalin is?” with something like:
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> “Yeah, actually. It’s a CNS stimulant, like amphetamine. CNS stimulants can be very helpful for treating specific disorders, but can also be devastating when abused. Look at how bugshit crazy L. Ron Hubbard went after years of taking amphetamine for kicks. Delusions of grandeur, paranoia. Textbook stuff. It’s too bad he shunned help. Really, the important thing is the ability to distinguish between drug use and drug _abuse_.”

PERFECTION!

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/108 "2005-06-26T04:22:34Z")

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> [@Boldface Type](#):
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> Anyway, if Tom Cruise summits everest, I’ll eat my own head.

Well, on that day I _will_ have seen everything.

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**Author:** ![marymargaret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@marymargaret](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marymargaret)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/109 "2005-06-26T05:04:21Z")

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My neighbor said she was going to pay to see Bewitched when she goes to see War of the Worlds.

Ain’t a good sign for Tom’s career. :wally

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/110 "2005-06-26T05:11:38Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Larry Borgia, you could always buy a ticket for another movie, and then go into WOTW.

_That’s_ the ticket! Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/111 "2005-06-26T05:38:36Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Just remember: Just because he’s in the movie, that doesn’t make WotW a “Tom Cruise Movie”. It’s a Steven Spielberg film; Cruise is just a member of the cast. If you have a problem with Spielberg, that’s find, but don’t forget whose show it is.

My feeling is that if enough of Cruise’s films bomb because he’s now decided to spew his ape-shit battiness everywhere he goes, he won’t retain his Hollywood Golden Boy status. If he can’t sell tickets, people won’t hire him. (I know, it’s a pipe dream.) But I refuse to put any money in his pocket. Ever. Ever. Again.

If Spielberg suffers because people don’t see this movie, tough titties. Maybe people will start thinking twice about putting Tommy Boy in their movies.

War of the Worlds? I’ll wait for the book to come out. 🙂

Happy

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/112 "2005-06-26T17:52:12Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Just remember: Just because he’s in the movie, that doesn’t make WotW a “Tom Cruise Movie”. It’s a Steven Spielberg film; Cruise is just a member of the cast. If you have a problem with Spielberg, that’s find, but don’t forget whose show it is.

That’s true. I have to admit I’m not a big Spielberg fan. I don’t hate him or anything, I just find his movies kind of dull. I’m a huge dino nut, but I almost fell asleep during both Jurassic Parks. Even Saving Private Ryan didn’t do it for me, except for that amazing first twenty minutes. So I was kinda on the fence about WotW anyway. Now the prospect of staring at Tom Cruise for two hours plus has made that movie even less of a draw.

I’ve got Collateral on my netflix queue, but it won’t go up to #1 till my current rage subsides.

I don’t normally care when actors do or say dumb things. They’re _actors_ for crying out loud. But what Cruise was saying could convince someone to stop taking life saving medication. That is just not cool. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/113 "2005-06-26T20:37:20Z")

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> [@marymargaret](#):
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> My neighbor said she was going to pay to see Bewitched when she goes to see War of the Worlds.

Can you still do that? I did long ago, but I wasn’t sure you could nowadays.

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**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/114 "2005-06-26T21:27:18Z")

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Well, now that Cruise has pulled a Mel Gibson (behaving like a crazed, self-righteous zealot with highly questionable beliefs), how long will it be before he’s the object of ridicule in his own **South Park** episode?

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/115 "2005-06-26T21:40:33Z")

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> [@Rainbowthief](#):
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> Well, now that Cruise has pulled a Mel Gibson (behaving like a crazed, self-righteous zealot with highly questionable beliefs), how long will it be before he’s the object of ridicule in his own **South Park** episode?

As I understand it, they can whip up an episode in a week if they feel the need. Has to be during a run of new episodes though. I don’t think even Tom Cruise is great enough to merit a special quicky episode.

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**Author:** ![marymargaret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@marymargaret](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marymargaret)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/116 "2005-06-26T22:48:49Z")

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> [@Good Egg](#):
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> Can you still do that? I did long ago, but I wasn’t sure you could nowadays.

I think it would be easy to do.

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2005, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/117 "2005-06-26T23:46:36Z")

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Just to be clear, Scientology holds that about 75 million years ago, Xenu, the then-ruler of the Galactic Confederation, enlisted the aid of psychiatrists to paralyze and murder billions of people; the “souls” of those murdered individuals were then captured and programmed with harmful and misleading information. Today, those souls, called “thetans,” still exist, and are attached to the bodies of all persons on Earth, causing various problems – all persons except those who have taken the necessary steps to remove them.

Given this belief, Cruise’s antipathy towards psychiatry is given at least some context.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@The\_Hook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hook)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/118 "2005-06-27T00:02:05Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Given this belief, Cruise’s antipathy towards psychiatry is given at least some context.

So, when he told Matt Lauer he didn’t know the history of psychiatry as well as he did, it’s to be inferred he was talking about space aliens?

Hmm… since we’re on this topic, how do scientologists **know** this? Do all scientologists believe this? I’m having a hard time picturing Travolta believing this crap.

Actually, I don’t, somehow. :dubious: How sad.

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**Author:** ![marymargaret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@marymargaret](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marymargaret)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/119 "2005-06-27T00:23:11Z")

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I don’t care what Cruise believes, it is his condescending tone and inability to see the world through anybody else’s eyes that bugs the crap out of me.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-see-tom-cruise-on-today-this-morning/309661/120 "2005-06-27T00:30:16Z")

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> [@The Hook](#):
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> Hmm… since we’re on this topic, how do scientologists **know** this?

How do Christians know that Jesus is the son of God?

> [@](#):
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> Do all scientologists believe this? I’m having a hard time picturing Travolta believing this crap.

I kinda think they have to (I guess, I haven’t heard of any splinter groups within the “religion”).

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