# Anyone else surprised (dismayed?) by Las Vegas? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 9, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-surprised-dismayed-by-las-vegas/980948 "2023-03-09T21:07:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-surprised-dismayed-by-las-vegas/980948/361 "2023-04-06T22:35:04Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I’m not ADD, but I have much more fun depending on pure luck (and proper strategy). I’ve tried counting, and it’s too much like work. After decades of playing blackjack, I don’t have to think at all to know the right decision based on the cards showing, and I just sit back, beer in hand, and enjoy the rhythm of the game. Sometimes I win. Often I lose. But I enjoy it. That is a perfectly cromulent way to play blackjack. Sometimes peoole like to gamble for fun. And by ‘people’ I mean almost every gambler except for a few math nerds. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-surprised-dismayed-by-las-vegas/980948/362 "2023-04-07T00:00:38Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > My theory about what happened to limit poker was A) the popularity of the WSOP rose culturally, driving people to no-likit, and B) the dasinos got greedy and raisedvthe rake in oow limit to 10% up to $5. Add in the jackpot drops, and low limit players just get eaten alive by the rake. I agree with (A) absolutely. When was the last time you saw a house game, much less one in a card room, play 5-card draw or 7-card stud? There’s nothing particularly new about this, either; I remember an episode of _House_, which hasn’t been on the air since 2012, that dealt with a couple of the doctors being in a charity poker tournament - a No Limit Hold’em tournament, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-surprised-dismayed-by-las-vegas/980948/363 "2023-04-07T18:42:18Z")
I have to thank you guys for the recommendation of the Peppermill. It is now my new favorite place. As the Las Vegas Review-Journal said, it’s like Denny’s on crack. > **[The Peppermill at 50: Fake trees, real neon and cocktails bigger than a...](https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/food/the-peppermill-at-50-fake-trees-real-neon-and-cocktails-bigger-than-a-babys-head-2697724/)** > > The Peppermill Restaurant and Fireside Lounge remains a remarkable assault on the senses — even by Las Vegas standards. Turns out, its history is nearly as colorful as its interiors. I ordered a New York Steak and a Margarita. The steak came with ‘soup’ that looked like a large bowl of spaghetti and was easily a meal in itself. The Margarita could have been served in a Frisbee. And it was happy hour, so $6. This is the old Vegas. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-surprised-dismayed-by-las-vegas/980948/364 "2023-04-07T18:59:46Z")
You’re welcome. I thought you’d dig the place. There’s still a little of the old Vegas left. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-surprised-dismayed-by-las-vegas/980948/365 "2023-04-07T20:04:37Z")
Glad you liked it. Young first wife and I did a lot of cuddling on those cushions by the firepit. And saw a lot of others “cuddling” too. Good times. Good times. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-surprised-dismayed-by-las-vegas/980948/366 "2023-04-09T00:27:10Z")
Anyone ever ventured out to [Desert National Wildlife Refuge](https://www.fws.gov/refuge/desert/visit-us/trails) north of Vegas? In particular trail around the Corn Creek Visitors Center? As we drive into the city next week, before we hit Omega Mart, we might stop in to stretch our legs. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-surprised-dismayed-by-las-vegas/980948.md?page=18)