# Anyone else think Trump is trying to sink the USPS to stop mail in voting **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 11, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-think-trump-is-trying-to-sink-the-usps-to-stop-mail-in-voting/851586 "2020-04-11T23:06:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-think-trump-is-trying-to-sink-the-usps-to-stop-mail-in-voting/851586/41 "2020-04-17T19:44:41Z")
> [@John\_Bredin](#): > > And then the Trump administration knocks those negotiations into a cocked hat by announcing that Trump won’t sign any stimulus or relief bill that makes a grant (as opposed to a loan) to the Postal Service. [LMGTFU.](https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+post+office&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS874US874&oq=Trump+post+office&aqs=chrome.0.0l8.3855j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) > Except what the Trump administration itself is saying. :smack: Speaking of cocked hats, hold that spyglass up to your bad eye, Admiral Nelson, the rest of us see the ships coming. :rolleyes: Trump doesn’t have line item veto so he’s in no position to stop a stimulus package. If he did then the Kennedy Center would have been turned into a parking lot for a lot less money. He certainly didn’t support the millions they got. He’s on record as leveling the playing field for the USPS with his actions on international rates. this was an anchor around the PO’s neck. It wasn’t a blank check to keep it running regardless of how it’s run. ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-think-trump-is-trying-to-sink-the-usps-to-stop-mail-in-voting/851586/42 "2020-04-17T20:01:19Z")
I wouldn’t put it past him. But I thought Voter ID laws were the Republicans’ attempt to suppress Democrat votes, whereas mail in voting actually helped the Republicans, because it’s mostly military members who use it. However, that may be an outdated idea, as general access to mail in voting has increased substantially in the last few elections. But still, I don’t see why it would do anything except shoot the Republicans in the foot. This election more than any will absolutely require mail in voting. Unless we get a vaccine by tomorrow and spend the next few months inoculating everyone. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-think-trump-is-trying-to-sink-the-usps-to-stop-mail-in-voting/851586/43 "2020-04-17T20:02:35Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Trump doesn’t have line item veto so he’s in no position to stop a stimulus package. If he did then the Kennedy Center would have been turned into a parking lot for a lot less money. He certainly didn’t support the millions they got. I wouldn’t say “no position” if vetoing a relief bill is a hill he’d be willing to proverbially die on, I’d say he’s in a limited position to do so. Else what’s the point of administration officials (not just Trump himself tweeting in a fit of pique) signaling his disapproval in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-think-trump-is-trying-to-sink-the-usps-to-stop-mail-in-voting/851586/44 "2020-04-18T02:16:23Z")
This impeached and incompetent POTUS would privatize the US military if he could, selling it off to China and Russia. Call it marketing. > [@rowrrbazzle](#): > > Last I checked, Dems were still blaming Bush for stuff well into Obama’s 2nd term. Maybe because the effects of Dubya’s gang’s crimes lasted awhile. (Take off your shoes, citizen.) As usual, the n!g got the shit job. Did pretty well, considering. > [@](#): > > And Obama didn’t have to deal with an impeachment attempt that had absolutely no merit. DJT bragged of obstructing justice and admitted violating campaign laws. Now he’s promoting armed insurrection. Try again. > [@DrCube](#): > > I wouldn’t put it past him. But I thought Voter ID laws were the Republicans’ attempt to suppress Democrat votes, whereas mail in voting actually helped the Republicans, because it’s mostly military members who use it. However, that may be an outdated idea, as general access to mail in voting has increased substantially in the last few elections. But still, I don’t see why it would do anything except shoot the Republicans in the foot. This election more than any will absolutely require mail in voting. Unless we get a vaccine by tomorrow and spend the next few months inoculating everyone. You assume a state of emergency, martial law, and national lockdown won’t be declared first. Optimist! ---
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-think-trump-is-trying-to-sink-the-usps-to-stop-mail-in-voting/851586/45 "2020-04-18T09:37:10Z")
[According to a USA today article](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/10/fact-check-coronavirus-wont-force-us-postal-service-shut-down/5126557002/) even if the USPS runs out of funding by June they still wouldn’t be out of business for quite a while, well past the November election, which means all the speculation of how Trump is trying to destroy the post office specifically so they can’t deliver mail for the November election as pure conspiracy bunk. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-think-trump-is-trying-to-sink-the-usps-to-stop-mail-in-voting/851586/46 "2020-04-18T10:27:36Z")
Although bankrupting the Post Office may not eliminate mail-in voting for November that doesn’t mean _Trump_ or his inner circle realize that. I see no evidence that Trump is capable of planning past his next appearance on TV. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-think-trump-is-trying-to-sink-the-usps-to-stop-mail-in-voting/851586/47 "2020-04-18T12:59:15Z")
> [@RioRico](#): > > … DJT bragged of obstructing justice and admitted violating campaign laws. Now he’s promoting armed insurrection. Try again. You forgot about extorting the President of Ukraine by withholding military aid to help them defend against his BFF Putin for his own gain. That was a win win! ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-think-trump-is-trying-to-sink-the-usps-to-stop-mail-in-voting/851586/48 "2020-04-18T15:31:20Z")
What would happen if the government of, e.g. California announced that it was taking over the USPS? “USPS” signs would have “Calif PS” pasted over them. Intra-state Post Office operations would continue as usual with salaries paid by the State. (Inter-state postal service would require inter-state treaties.) ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-think-trump-is-trying-to-sink-the-usps-to-stop-mail-in-voting/851586/49 "2020-04-18T15:55:08Z")
> [@RioRico](#): > > This impeached and incompetent POTUS would privatize the US military if he could, selling it off to China and Russia. Call it marketing. He’s the Milo Minderbinder of presidents! ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-think-trump-is-trying-to-sink-the-usps-to-stop-mail-in-voting/851586/50 "2020-04-18T16:13:24Z")
> [@Asuka](#): > > [According to a USA today article](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/10/fact-check-coronavirus-wont-force-us-postal-service-shut-down/5126557002/) even if the USPS runs out of funding by June they still wouldn’t be out of business for quite a while, well past the November election, which means all the speculation of how Trump is trying to destroy the post office specifically so they can’t deliver mail for the November election as pure conspiracy bunk. The Tangerine doesn’t read USAtoday, that’s fake news! Seriously though, you’re giving him a lot more credit than he deserves. The OP doesn’t claim that not funding the PO will be giving an edge to Trump’s reelection, only the he thinks it will. Losing the USPS in the bid is a big price to pay. Let’s be honest, Trump has proved over and over again that he’s ill equipped to run the country. But let me ask you directly, do you think its a good idea to let the PO go under? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-think-trump-is-trying-to-sink-the-usps-to-stop-mail-in-voting/851586/51 "2020-04-18T20:23:10Z")
:sigh: Trump just thinks this will hurt Amazon. Hurt Jeff Bezos the owner of the WP. Trump may also have somewhere in his rattling scull something that understands that Bezos is an actual factual multi-billionaire and could eat Trump ‘Enterprise’ as an small appetizer. Luckily for Trump, Bezos doesn’t have a taste for bullshit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-else-think-trump-is-trying-to-sink-the-usps-to-stop-mail-in-voting/851586.md?page=2)