# Anyone feeling buyers remorse about Obama yet? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201 "2010-06-06T21:41:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/1 "2010-06-06T21:41:33Z")
These are dark days for Barack Obama. After looking over Real Clear Politics today, there are a dozen articles from writers on the left and right talking about how he seems to be drowning. Here is one paragraph from Jack Kelly of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. “More ominous for Mr. Obama than the cooling ardor of formerly adoring fans in the news media is what happened when the president came to Pittsburgh Wednesday to make a speech. Democratic Sen. Bob Casey, Democratic Senate nominee Joe Sestak, and Democratic gubernatorial nominee Dan Onorato, who lives in Allegheny County, were all too busy to attend. Democratic Reps. Mike Doyle and Mark Critz, who represent portions of the area, also had other plans.” Apparently, he won’t be traveling much this fall to “help” candidates. He is turning out to be the Jimmy Carter clone I expected him to be. People fell for the pie in the sky snake charmer bullshit and now they are getting what they paid for. He is in over his head. I put this in the pit because that’s where it would end up anyway. I await both the astute political analysis many dopers are capable of…and the desperate tap dancing about how it’s all Bush’s fault. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/2 "2010-06-06T21:43:07Z")
Jack Kelly, wasn’t he the guy who got fired from USA Today for making shit up? ---
**Author:** ![Cort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/77aa72/32.png) [@Cort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cort)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/3 "2010-06-06T21:45:12Z")
> [@Evil One](#): > > I put this in the pit because that’s where it would end up anyway. I await both the astute political analysis many dopers are capable of…and the desperate tap dancing about how it’s all Bush’s fault. Well, he hasn’t started any immoral and needless wars yet so he’s still ahead on points. Astute enough? ---
**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/4 "2010-06-06T21:52:05Z")
No. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/5 "2010-06-06T21:54:49Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > Jack Kelly, wasn’t he the guy who got fired from USA Today for making shit up? I don’t know. I could google it, I suppose. You’re probably right…those five PA politicians were actually there at the speech and he’s lying to make Obama look bad. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/6 "2010-06-06T21:56:17Z")
> [@Cort](#): > > Well, he hasn’t started any immoral and needless wars yet so he’s still ahead on points. Astute enough? Not much more needs to be said after reading that, Cort. “Astute” isn’t my first adjective of choice, though. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/7 "2010-06-06T22:06:23Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > . I await both the astute political analysis many dopers are capable of…and the desperate tap dancing about how it’s all Bush’s fault. [snip] So by your logic: An arson starts a fire. A fireman comes and tries to put it out. It then burns to the ground. Now we’re only allowed to argue why this is the fireman’s fault? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/8 "2010-06-06T22:11:00Z")
I didn’t vote for Obama (nor McCain, as I have to remind people who love to trash me), but I still think he’s really done a decent job as President, and IMO has done a much better job than McCain would have. Sure Obama’s made a few stupid mistakes, but overall I really liked the fallible “real” Obama of the first year. I could list the top 5 Really Bad things Obama has done, but still, I suppose I could find that with any President. So no, I have non-buyer’s regret; I should have voted for Obama so I could have a smug sense of satisfaction. ---
**Author:** ![kingbighair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/13edae/32.png) [@kingbighair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingbighair)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/9 "2010-06-06T22:13:43Z")
One of his most important messages during the campaign was was that he was not going to turn around America by himself. He consistently said everyone was going to have pitch in. So the people who thought they could sit back and let Obama fix everything only have themselves to blame. He never said he was going to be that type of president, and anyone who thought otherwise was either delusional or bought in to the right wing “messiah” bullshit. If anything, I have buyers remorse in actually thinking the American people would stop looking at every situation as a chance to score political points and actually get things done (I know that is not buyers remorse, but whatever). Of course we are used to the right doing it, but the left has acted like a bratty child getting pissed when they do not get everything they want right when they want it. We thought we elected Obama the dictator, and he would go into office kicking everyone’s ass while making America a progressive paradise. Unfortunately that is not the way our government works. He was also hamstrung by the obstinate right, who would vote no to free ice cream for children if it meant political harm to Obama. He has done some regrettable things. He is human and I do not expect my elected leaders to do everything exactly as my armchair political strategist ass thinks is right. Realizing that, I shudder to think of where we would be right now with McCain and Palin running things. Yikes. ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/10 "2010-06-06T22:14:36Z")
> [@](#): > > So no, I have non-buyer’s regret; That’s the worst kind of regret. Especially the itching. My god the itching! ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/11 "2010-06-06T22:17:21Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > [snip] > > So by your logic: An arson starts a fire. A fireman comes and tries to put it out. It then burns to the ground. Now we’re only allowed to argue why this is the fireman’s fault? :dubious: My point is that there are a number of people who are ideologically incapable of seeing Obama as anything other than perfect. Bush is a fig leaf for these people. Obama has had 18 months and a cooperative congress. Each time he and his supporters play the “blame Bush” card, it makes them look ineffective to those who are not ideologically blinded to Obama’s perfection. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/12 "2010-06-06T22:18:40Z")
Mmm…I’m not 100% happy with his performance, and he has disappointed me in some ways, but overall, I’m feeling okay about my vote. Of course, it’d take a _lot_ for me to start wishing McCain (and Palin, ughhh) had won instead. Mentally comparing Obama with Hillary, instead…I don’t know, I think she would probably be comparable in performance to Obama. He did enter the White House under very difficult circumstances (is it whining about how it’s Bush’s fault if I point out that the two wars and the recession both began during the Bush administration?), and I didn’t expect him to be able to fix them all in one fell swoop. I think he’s probably doing the best he can in trying times. I don’t know what’s going in in Pennsylvania politics, so I don’t have much to say about the behavior of the politicians there. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/13 "2010-06-06T22:21:56Z")
> [@kingbighair](#): > > If anything, I have buyers remorse in actually thinking the American people would stop looking at every situation as a chance to score political points and actually get things done. This bothers me as well. They are both much more concerned with playing “gotcha” than solving problems. > [@kingbighair](#): > > Realizing that, I shudder to think of where we would be right now with McCain and Palin running things. Yikes. I think McCain would have been better than Obama, particularly on foreign policy and domestic spending issues. However, if Palin runs I will not vote for her and I hope she doesn’t win if she does. She strikes me as simplistic. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/14 "2010-06-06T22:22:20Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > My point is that there are a number of people who are ideologically incapable of seeing Obama as anything other than perfect. Who are these people? Are they on the SDMB? Do you have a link? ---
**Author:** ![kingbighair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/13edae/32.png) [@kingbighair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingbighair)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/15 "2010-06-06T22:23:04Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > Obama has had 18 months and **a cooperative congress**. Seriously? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/16 "2010-06-06T22:23:35Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > Jack Kelly, wasn’t he the guy who got fired from USA Today for making shit up? Just for the record, no. The guy who got fired from USA Today was Jack Kelley. This is Jack Kelly, who was a congressional press secretary, deputy press secretary for the RNC, deputy assistant press secretary for the Air Force, communications director for a conservative think tank, and now opinion writer for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and Toledo Blade. Totally different people. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/17 "2010-06-06T22:25:07Z")
That hopey changey thing is working out OK for me. He’s done about what I expected him to do. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/18 "2010-06-06T22:25:21Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > [snip] > > So by your logic: An arson starts a fire. A fireman comes and tries to put it out. It then burns to the ground. Now we’re only allowed to argue why this is the fireman’s fault? :dubious: Agree. And, to give a short answer to the OP’s question… No. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/19 "2010-06-06T22:25:29Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > My point is that there are a number of people who are ideologically incapable of seeing Obama as anything other than perfect. Then why don’t you go find the fucking forum where those people hang out and bag on them, ya putz? I’ll give you a hint; they’re mghty thin on the ground around here. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/20 "2010-06-06T22:25:59Z")
Obama has doen a bunch of things I don’t like. And my policy and party preferences are well known here. But I voted for him. And I maintain that of the choices I had, he was the best. So, no, I can’t say I regret my vote. I regret being placed in a position where McCain was my other choice, because I believed then, and still do, that a McCain presidency would have been worse for the country. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201.md?page=2)