# Anyone feeling buyers remorse about Obama yet? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201 "2010-06-06T21:41:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/261 "2010-06-08T18:24:48Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > Carter wasn’t all that bad … unless you were a rabbit. More likely it was a nutria. But wha’evs. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/262 "2010-06-08T18:31:33Z")
Nutria season! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/263 "2010-06-08T18:43:36Z")
A killer nutria. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/264 "2010-06-08T18:49:29Z")
> [@Peanut\_Gallery](#): > > Excuse me for not reading pages 2 & 3, but I was just checking in to get the current total of how many Obama/Biden voters wish they had voted for McCain/Palin. **Evil One** , you have a tally running right? I’ll take my answer off the air. You’re a great American! Thanks! Brilliant on so many levels. (golf clap) -Joe ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/265 "2010-06-08T18:50:04Z")
Hell, Bush would have called in an air strike! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/266 "2010-06-08T18:50:12Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > Carter wasn’t all that bad … unless you were a rabbit. And the poor guy didn’t even have a holy hand grenade - had to make do with a paddle. At least he wasn’t up Nutria Creek without a paddle… ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/267 "2010-06-08T19:09:05Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I see. So when I post a comment by someone like James Carville to show leftie discontent with Obama, you for some mysterious reason disagree that he’s a leftie and then ascribe to me dishonesty as a result? I wouldn’t argue, necessarily with generally calling Carville a “leftie,” except that he’s really more of a DLC-type guy. But in your limited worldview, I’ll accept “leftie” as sufficiently nuanced. However, you’re making yourself (no surprise) look like a moron by pointing at him as some kind of Obama supporter who has come to have remorse for his decision. Here are a couple of points: > **[Carville: If Hillary Gave Obama "One Of Her Cojones, They'd Both Have Two"](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/carville-if-hillary-gave_n_100038)** > > Carville: If Hillary Gave Obama "One Of Her Cojones, They'd Both Have Two" > [@](#): > > Hillary is the tougher of the two, the candidate you want on your side in a knife fight, a gender reversal that prompts Carville to indulge in some ribald humor: “If she gave him one of her cojones, they’d both have two.” [http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sandiego/access/1452218531.html?dids=1452218531:1452218531&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Mar+25%2C+2008&author=Anonymous&pub=The+San+Diego+Union+-+Tribune&desc=In+the+gutter+|+It’s+getting+uglier+in+Democratic+campaign&pqatl=google](http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sandiego/access/1452218531.html?dids=1452218531:1452218531&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Mar+25%2C+2008&author=Anonymous&pub=The+San+Diego+Union+-+Tribune&desc=In+the+gutter+%7C+It's+getting+uglier+in+Democratic+campaign&pqatl=google) > [@](#): > > After New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, a former appointee to key positions in the Bill Clinton Cabinet, endorsed [Barack Obama] last week, Democratic strategist James Carville, a Clintonite, angrily likened Richardson to Judas for what Carville considered an act of betrayal. The guy was no fan of Obama’s, and probably still holds a grudge against him. He’s also very much an insider political type who’s married to a right-winger, and reputedly gave her (while she was a Bush campaign insider) tips about John Kerry’s strategy to contest ballots in 2004. Not that I mind you looking like an idiot - there’s nothing that can stop that, and I wonder where your length of barbed wire is - but at least you ought to have some sense as to why you look so stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/268 "2010-06-08T19:15:19Z")
Maybe it was a mutant cross between a nutria and a rabbit, a nutbit? Or maybe it was an early form of Carville Chupacabra? Ooh, scary! [sub]I didn’t expect my pointless drive-by comment to get that much attention, I love you guys![/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/269 "2010-06-08T19:26:19Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > No, I think we all acknowledge that even conservatives know that a river or stream is a handy spot for taking a pee. That’s some caring, right there. Not just that. Though in my experience a conservative conservationist firmly believes in conserving anything that can be shot or strip mined. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/270 "2010-06-08T19:36:58Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I wouldn’t argue, necessarily with generally calling Carville a “leftie,” except that he’s really more of a DLC-type guy. But in your limited worldview, I’ll accept “leftie” as sufficiently nuanced. Whew! That’s a relief! :rolleyes: > [@Hector the Contrarian](#): > > However, you’re making yourself (no surprise) look like a moron by pointing at him as some kind of Obama supporter who has come to have remorse for his decision. Nope. Not so. Merely pointed to him as one of several lefties expressing disappointment with Obama. > [@Hector the Librarian](#): > > The guy was no fan of Obama’s, and probably still holds a grudge against him. But…but…what about Spike Lee and Whoopie Goldberg and… Well, you get the idea. Carville is hardly the only leftie expressing doubts about Obama. > [@Hector the Contrarian](#): > > He’s also very much an insider political type who’s married to a right-winger, and reputedly gave her (while she was a Bush campaign insider) tips about John Kerry’s strategy to contest ballots in 2004. Reportedly? _Reportedly??_ Hah! I have a life-sized picture of the screams of _“CITE!!!”_ that I’d be met with if I were to make such a comment. 😃 Still, it wouldn’t surprise me if he did. Laying the groundwork for Hillary in 2008 most likely. > [@Hector the Librarian](#): > > Not that I mind you looking like an idiot - there’s nothing that can stop that, and I wonder where your length of barbed wire is - but at least you ought to have some sense as to why you look so stupid. Yeah, yeah, yeah…“idiot”, “moron”, “knuckkle-dragging mouth-breather”, etc., etc., etc. You douchebags throw those words around like confetti. Ever wonder what I’m swatting at with all that barbed wire? ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/271 "2010-06-08T19:39:24Z")
I had remorse when it appeared he would not get health care through. But when he got some kind of health care passed , I felt better. He is working on financial regulation. It appears to be suffering from the money and government pressure the bankers are exerting. I wait to see what comes out. If it is a watered down bill that allows the bankers to make casinos out of the deposits, I will be disappointed. If he actually achieves a good bill , I will be pleased. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/272 "2010-06-08T19:41:28Z")
I’m certain that your approval will mean a lot to him, gonzo. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/273 "2010-06-08T19:42:09Z")
**Starving Artist** quoting Spike Lee? Rabbits and nutria cohabiting! Glen Beck saying something clever! End of world, etc. The Mayans were pretty close. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/274 "2010-06-08T19:43:46Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > But…but…what about Spike Lee and Whoopie Goldberg and… > > Well, you get the idea. Carville is hardly the only leftie expressing doubts about Obama. What “doubts” have they expressed? > [@](#): > > Yeah, yeah, yeah…“idiot”, “moron”, “knuckkle-dragging mouth-breather”, etc., etc., etc. You douchebags throw those words around like confetti. Ever wonder what I’m swatting at with all that barbed wire? No, I haven’t wondered at all. It’s because you are retarded. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/275 "2010-06-08T19:43:50Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > Yeah, yeah, yeah…“idiot”, “moron”, “knuckkle-dragging mouth-breather”, etc., etc., etc. You douchebags throw those words around like confetti. Well, to be fair, we don’t generally need to use them so much except when we’re around you and your particular ilk. There are plenty of intelligent conservatives (despite what I say when I tease **Plan B** ) whom I strongly disagree with but have never felt the slightest temptation to call an “idiot” or a “moron”. For, er, certain conservatives, on the other hand, no other words are adequate. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/276 "2010-06-08T21:39:56Z")
There isn’t a conservative on this board who hasn’t been called the same stupid insults that I have, and with a fair amount of regularity. Insulting or questioning the intelligence of conservatives has been de riguer for the left since at least the turn of the twentieth century. Still, it isn’t us who came up with the brilliant idea of passing kids who would otherwise fail because to fail them would harm their “self-esteem”. It wasn’t us who insisted on building housing projects that became cesspools of hopelessness and crime. It wasn’t us who glommed onto drugs like they were manna from heaven. It wasn’t us who created the type of society where 25% of high school girls have STDs or pregnancy rates as high as one in every seven girls, as was the case with Robeson high school in Chicago. It wasn’t us who insisted on turning murderers and other miscreants loose on society long before their terms expired and which resulting in the three-strikes laws that even I agree can be ridiculous. It wasn’t us who decided that people didn’t need a “piece of paper” to legitimize their love and live together, resulting in millions of single-parent homes and latchkey kids raising themselves to live lives of deprivation and crime. It wasn’t us who… Well, I could go on for pages but you get the idea. The only question is how much more liberal intelligence this country can withstand. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/277 "2010-06-08T21:45:38Z")
Hey, kids, it’s the **Starving Artist** show! Yay! Oh, wait, I’ve seen this one. Damn reruns! ☹ ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/278 "2010-06-08T21:52:35Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > There isn’t a conservative on this board who hasn’t been called the same stupid insults that I have, and with a fair amount of regularity. You’re a douchenozzle. **Sam Stone** and **UncleBeer** , on the other hand? Two people who I sometimes (frequently) disagree with. Neither are douchenozzles. By the way, I still haven’t seen **Plan B** explain why he blamed Clinton for economic problems in 2002, while Bush isn’t on the hook in 2010. Did I miss it, or is it just business as usual? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/279 "2010-06-08T21:54:53Z")
> [@DMC](#): > > You’re a douchenozzle. **Sam Stone** and **UncleBeer** , on the other hand? Two people who I sometimes (frequently) disagree with. Neither are douchenozzles. And those that would call them douchenozzles simply because they’re conservative are no better than…well, no better than **Starving Artist** , really. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/280 "2010-06-08T22:09:53Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > There isn’t a conservative on this board who hasn’t been called the same stupid insults that I have, and with a fair amount of regularity. Insulting or questioning the intelligence of conservatives has been de riguer for the left since at least the turn of the twentieth century. Still, it isn’t us who came up with the brilliant idea of passing kids who would otherwise fail because to fail them would harm their “self-esteem”. It wasn’t us who insisted on building housing projects that became cesspools of hopelessness and crime. It wasn’t us who glommed onto drugs like they were manna from heaven. It wasn’t us who created the type of society where 25% of high school girls have STDs or pregnancy rates as high as one in every seven girls, as was the case with Robeson high school in Chicago. It wasn’t us who insisted on turning murderers and other miscreants loose on society long before their terms expired and which resulting in the three-strikes laws that even I agree can be ridiculous. It wasn’t us who decided that people didn’t need a “piece of paper” to legitimize their love and live together, resulting in millions of single-parent homes and latchkey kids raising themselves to live lives of deprivation and crime. It wasn’t us who… > > Well, I could go on for pages but you get the idea. The only question is how much more liberal intelligence this country can withstand. OK, we get it. Everything bad, everything that has ever gone wrong, ever, is the sole fault of the Liberal Douchebags. Uh huh. How’s that working for you? :rolleyes: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201.md?page=15)