# Anyone feeling buyers remorse about Obama yet? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201 "2010-06-06T21:41:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/281 "2010-06-08T22:11:27Z")
We’ve had 280 posts now. Without digging through all the posts has anyone that voted for Obama come out and said if they could take their vote back they would? This thread to me seems to have concluded people who didn’t vote for Obama still think they made the right choice and they want others to agree with them. People who voted for Obama while not happy with everything he’s done would still have voted for him. You know he did win the election. No matter how bitter you are about that it’s not going to change the results. Now the bitter losers are just looking for more people to be bitter with. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/282 "2010-06-08T22:15:59Z")
> [@Plan\_B](#): > > Are there really people who are so stupid that they believe conservatives don’t care about the environment? There’s those conservatives who don’t care about the environment; and then there are those who actively want to destroy it. I certainly wouldn’t expect a conservative to care about the environment. Or to possess any other positive quality, for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/283 "2010-06-08T22:16:08Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > There isn’t a conservative on this board who hasn’t been called the same stupid insults that I have, and with a fair amount of regularity. No, it’s pretty much just you. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/284 "2010-06-08T22:27:47Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > There isn’t a conservative on this board who hasn’t been called the same stupid insults that I have, and with a fair amount of regularity. Actually, there are several. The reason they don’t get called “idiot” and “moron” is because they’re not idiots and morons. Your own experience is different because, well, you’re different. And oh goody, let’s play silly stereotypes… > [@Starving Artist](#): > > Still, it isn’t us who came up with the brilliant idea of passing kids who would otherwise fail because to fail them would harm their “self-esteem”. No, it’s you who came up with the brilliant idea of putting misbehaving kids or homosexual kids into private “faith-based” correctional programs where they’re beaten and abused by the “counselors”, but it’s all okay because it’s showing them the love of Jesus. > [@Starving Artist](#): > > It wasn’t us who insisted on building housing projects that became cesspools of hopelessness and crime. No, it was you who insisted on draconian mandatory-incarceration schemes that throw millions of nonviolent minor offenders into **real** cesspools of hopelessness and crime, but you don’t care as long as you can pat yourself on the back for being “tough on crime”. > [@Starving Artist](#): > > It wasn’t us who glommed onto drugs like they were manna from heaven. Unless they were your multiple daily cocktails and desk-drawer liquor bottles and hip flasks and cigarettes and sleeping pills and barbituates for your unhappy housewives, in which case woe betide anybody who tried to tell you that all that stuff might not be very good for you. > [@Starving Artist](#): > > It wasn’t us who created the type of society where 25% of high school girls have STDs or pregnancy rates as high as one in every seven girls, as was the case with Robeson high school in Chicago. No, it was you who created the type of society where date rape was winked at as a “boys will be boys” phenomenon, and a rape victim’s highest duty was to hide her “shame” and not expose her attacker, because otherwise all you puritanical assholes would call her a slut and a whore. > [@Starving Artist](#): > > It wasn’t us who insisted on turning murderers and other miscreants loose on society long before their terms expired and which resulting in the three-strikes laws that even I agree can be ridiculous. No, it was you who promoted the ridiculous mandatory-sentencing laws because your need to feel righteous about punishing crime outweighed your common sense, such as it was. > [@Starving Artist](#): > > It wasn’t us who decided that people didn’t need a “piece of paper” to legitimize their love and live together, resulting in millions of single-parent homes and latchkey kids raising themselves to live lives of deprivation and crime. No, it was you who decided that marital rape and domestic violence didn’t count as real crimes, and the alleged “sanctity” of the “piece of paper” was more important than the suffering of abused women and children who didn’t dare leave their abusers because all you self-righteous pricks would look down on them and their “broken homes”. > [@Starving Artist](#): > > Well, I could go on for pages So could I. There definitely were some excesses and mistakes in liberal society, but at least they’re an improvement over the poisonous stifling bigotry and oppression that conservative society insisted on ramming down our throats. ---
**Author:** ![Camus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@Camus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Camus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/285 "2010-06-08T22:41:16Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > There isn’t a conservative on this board who… Please start your own thread and derail it. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/286 "2010-06-08T22:47:16Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > How’s that working for you? :rolleyes: How’s that Whiney Bitchey thing working out for ya? > [@DMC](#): > > By the way, I still haven’t seen **Plan B** explain why he blamed Clinton for economic problems in 2002, while Bush isn’t on the hook in 2010. Did I miss it, or is it just business as usual? Umm…hate to tell you this, but **Plan B** has been on the same level of intellectual honesty and integrity as **magellan** for quite some time. Signup day, I believe. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/287 "2010-06-08T23:02:59Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > So could I. There definitely were some excesses and mistakes in liberal society, but at least they’re an improvement over the poisonous stifling bigotry and oppression that conservative society insisted on ramming down our throats. Wow, that was kind of awesome. I would actually like to see you two get a thread and go at it. I mean, I’m not complaining that you’re hijacking, I mean there’d be enough material for you two to go at each other for pages. And I also like when people remind SA that the 50s weren’t all lollipops and sunshine and the brady bunch. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/288 "2010-06-08T23:13:04Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Wow, that was kind of awesome. I would actually like to see you two get a thread and go at it. Oy, thanks anyway. Dueling-silly-stereotypes is not my favorite style of argument, but it’s the only kind **Starving Artist** seems able to engage in. (Well after all, he **is** an idiot.) > [@SenorBeef](#): > > And I also like when people remind SA that the 50s weren’t all lollipops and sunshine and the brady bunch. And we didn’t even get to the topic of race relations… ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/289 "2010-06-08T23:14:49Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > What is it with you leftie douchebags and calling everyone you disagree with, or who disagrees with you, “idiots” or “morons”? Someone on this board once called me “dumbass”, does that make me a conservative? ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/290 "2010-06-08T23:22:46Z")
I propose we simply start calling all idiots, morons, and douchenozzles Starving Artists. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/291 "2010-06-08T23:26:08Z")
> [@Plan\_B](#): > > Are there really people who are so stupid that they believe conservatives don’t care about the environment? In general, y’all care less. There is a group of conservatives concerned about the environment to the extent that environmental damage causes harm to recreational hunting and fishing. There is a group of conservatives concerned about the environment to the extent that environmental damage causes harm to commercial hunting and fishing. There is, unfortunately, a stronger and more monied group of conservatives concerned about the environment to the extent that they oppose restrictions on their ability to dump industrial waste, emissions, and runoff anywhere their little hearts desire because such restrictions will harm industry. There’s a line in the middle somewhere, and it would behoove both sides to recognize that. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/292 "2010-06-08T23:36:20Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > because such restrictions will harm industry. ‘Will Harm Industry’ is a polite euphemism for ‘might cost me.’ ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/293 "2010-06-08T23:39:13Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > ‘Will Harm Industry’ is a polite euphemism for ‘might cost me.’ Well, yeah. I assumed that was understood. I was too subtle? ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/294 "2010-06-08T23:59:13Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Well, yeah. I assumed that was understood. I was too subtle? There are libertarians in this thread, they may believe that the words actually express a noble sentiment, rather than serve poorly as a cover for personal greed. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/295 "2010-06-09T00:38:55Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > I propose we simply start calling all idiots, morons, and douchenozzles Starving Artists. There can be only one. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/296 "2010-06-09T01:05:13Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > There are libertarians in this thread, they may believe that the words actually express a noble sentiment, rather than serve poorly as a cover for personal greed. Yep, we’re here, and we’re crying our little eyes out. ☹ How dare you intimate that I’m greedy, you . . . you human being you . . . with your two legs and two arms and everything . . . take that!! ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/297 "2010-06-09T01:07:41Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > There isn’t a conservative on this board who hasn’t been called the same stupid insults that I have, and with a fair amount of regularity. Um… I know I don’t get named too often in list of board conservatives (maybe because I’m somewhat libertarian leaning? You know, pro-life, pro-gay marriage/adoption), but people don’t call me names _too_ often either. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/298 "2010-06-09T01:25:29Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Yep, we’re here, and we’re crying our little eyes out. ☹ There, there **Rand** , it’ll be OK. Just try to remember that the ‘bad for business’ dodge makes poor camo, and people won’t point out quite so often what an asshole you are. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/299 "2010-06-09T01:42:13Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > and people won’t point out quite so often what an asshole you are. That’s actually my biggest fear. I’m crying even harder now ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/300 "2010-06-09T02:07:33Z")
Geeze, Rand. Do you need someone to pat you on the back and say “there, there”? You are _so_ sad! :eek: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201.md?page=16)