# Anyone feeling buyers remorse about Obama yet? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201 "2010-06-06T21:41:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/21 "2010-06-06T22:30:02Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > Who are these people? Committed leftists, mostly. And the uninformed who support Obama for what and who he is rather than taking the time to educate themselves on his positions to make an educated decision. > [@Kyla](#): > > Are they on the SDMB? Quite a few of them are, yes. > [@Kyla](#): > > Do you have a link? Try Great Debates. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/22 "2010-06-06T22:31:39Z")
> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#): > > That’s the worst kind of regret. Especially the itching. My god the itching! Have you considered maybe you’re just allergic to bees? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/23 "2010-06-06T22:31:45Z")
> [@kingbighair](#): > > Seriously? Good point. After the Brown election it was clear that most of the independents who helped elect him were running away in droves. This emboldened the Republicans to obstruct as much as possible. He did have majorities in both houses for the first year, however. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/24 "2010-06-06T22:32:47Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > That hopey changey thing is working out OK for me. He’s done about what I expected him to do. Would you vote to re-elect him? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/25 "2010-06-06T22:34:13Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Then why don’t you go find the fucking forum where those people hang out and bag on them, ya putz? I’ll give you a hint; they’re mghty thin on the ground around here. Forgive me for farting in the church. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/26 "2010-06-06T22:36:39Z")
Obama is a good reason why we need a better system of selecting presidential candidates. A man totally unqualified to be president, with 5 months of Senate experience, and NO understanding of how complex economies work, suddenly becomes the most powerful person in the world. We need to examine how this man was ever considered for this job. If we survive his “learning experience”.:mad::mad: ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/27 "2010-06-06T22:37:17Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I believed then, and still do, that a McCain presidency would have been worse for the country. I agree with you, but perhaps not for the same reason. I think the Obama presidency will ultimately be beneficial in one way. It will show yet another generation that “progressive” politics sound great on paper but don’t work in the real world. You can tell people the stove is hot all day long, but some just have to touch it to clue in. Obama is the stove. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/28 "2010-06-06T22:41:40Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > Obama is a good reason why we need a better system of selecting presidential candidates. A man totally unqualified to be president, with 5 months of Senate experience, and NO understanding of how complex economies work, suddenly becomes the most powerful person in the world. > We need to examine how this man was ever considered for this job. > If we survive his “learning experience”.:mad::mad: He looked good and sounded good reading a teleprompter. People were able to project what they wanted on his blank canvas. He would not have been elected without the mass turnout of people who start their sentences with the word “dude”. Those cute but politically clueless clearly have not heeded his call to help out others he’s endorsed. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/29 "2010-06-06T22:42:04Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > Would you vote to re-elect him? Depends on whom he was running against, and what the make-up of Congress was. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/30 "2010-06-06T22:43:40Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > Forgive me for farting in the church. Sorry, I’m not in a position to forgive you for that. First, because I don’t give a rat’s ass if you want to “fart” in “church.” Second, because you haven’t presented any evidence that you have, anyway. I’m suggesting that you go find the actual “church,” and do your “farting” there. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/31 "2010-06-06T22:45:05Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > Committed leftists, mostly. And the uninformed who support Obama for what and who he is rather than taking the time to educate themselves on his positions to make an educated decision. > > Quite a few of them are, yes. > > Try Great Debates. Boy, was that ever specific. You’re pedantic enough to respond to my post sentence by sentence, but too lazy to provide specifics. It’s like the worst of all worlds, wrapped up into one short post. I’m actually kind of impressed. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/32 "2010-06-06T22:47:30Z")
Not at all. He’s done stuff I don’t agree with and he hasn’t done some stuff I wish he would but in general he’s what I thought I was getting. A short list of things: - Lowered troop presence in Iraq and raised levels in Afghanistan - Worked to make Pakistan into an actual productive partner against al-Qaeda - Taken the first steps towards restarting the construction of nuclear power plants - Reversed the executive order barring federal funding for embryonic stem cell research - Is trying (with significant barriers) to close Gitmo - Saw a significant health care reform bill get made into law - Will most likely sign a financial industry reform bill before November You (or whoever) may not agree that all of those were “good” things but they were things I voted him into office to do. Not every one perfectly but better than McCain and better than I’d have expected Clinton to do. I think he’s on the right track with the economy but also recognize that it’s something that takes time and doesn’t respond perfectly to controls. I started to respond to the column you quoted but the truth is that, at the end of the day, if Obama got that stuff done and the cost of it was losing a number of Congresscritters, I can only be thankful that he got it done while it could be done. There’s no use in having significant majorities if all you’re going to do is coddle and protect them by playing it safe and never getting anything significant accomplished. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/33 "2010-06-06T22:48:02Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > Forgive me for farting in the church. So you got nuthin’. Either that or you don’t know how to use the ignore button. I’ll give you a hint: one or two people _from the entire SDMB_ who see Obama as incapable of being wrong is a really really really small percentage especially considering our supposed liberal bias. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/34 "2010-06-06T22:48:36Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Depends on whom he was running against, and what the make-up of Congress was. My guess is Romney, John Thune or Tim Pawlenty with a Republican house and Democratic Senate. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/35 "2010-06-06T22:52:43Z")
Obama worked out great. He got healthcare reform through. It wasn’t as much as I hoped for but it’s a good start, especially considering Republican obstructionism. Bunch of freaking babies. He hasn’t lied to start any wars either. He handled the economic crises pretty good. You know the one he was left with because Bush knew about it but incompetently ignored to pursue his own agenda of debt war and death? I wasn’t too sure about him at first, but he’s proving himself pretty good. Much better then any Republican options have or would have. I AM, however, having buyer’s remorse for that night with the OP’s mother. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/36 "2010-06-06T22:54:31Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > So you got nuthin’. Either that or you don’t know how to use the ignore button. I’ll give you a hint: one or two people _from the entire SDMB_ who see Obama as incapable of being wrong is a really really really small percentage especially considering our supposed liberal bias. That’s true. The more politically aware you are, the more you see that things are not black and white. I made the point that there are people who are ideologically incapable of seeing any wrong with Obama. To pretend these people don’t exist is to join them. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/37 "2010-06-06T22:57:08Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > Boy, was that ever specific. You’re pedantic enough to respond to my post sentence by sentence, but too lazy to provide specifics. It’s like the worst of all worlds, wrapped up into one short post. I’m actually kind of impressed. You asked me for “proof” that there are a number of people who are ideologically incapable of seeing Obama as anything other than perfect. That’s like asking me to provide GPS coordinates and candlepower estimates if I say the sun is shining. Of course those people exist. As I said to another poster, pretending they don’t is to become one of them. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/38 "2010-06-06T22:57:56Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > My guess is Romney, John Thune or Tim Pawlenty with a Republican house and Democratic Senate. I wouldn’t vote for Romney-- he’s too much of an opportunist, and I wouldn’t know what he’d try to do. Thune or Pawlenty I don’t know anything about. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/39 "2010-06-06T22:58:42Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > Obama worked out great. He got healthcare reform through. It wasn’t as much as I hoped for but it’s a good start, especially considering Republican obstructionism. Bunch of freaking babies. He hasn’t lied to start any wars either. He handled the economic crises pretty good. You know the one he was left with because Bush knew about it but incompetently ignored to pursue his own agenda of debt war and death? > > I AM, however, having buyer’s remorse for that night with the OP’s mother. Careful, dad, you’ll hurt my feelings. I’m loving the “debt war and death” stuff by the way. ---
**Author:** ![kingbighair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/13edae/32.png) [@kingbighair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingbighair)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/40 "2010-06-06T23:00:27Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > He looked good and sounded good reading a teleprompter. People were able to project what they wanted on his blank canvas. And I think you are projecting the right wing anti-messiah talking point on Obama supporters. Again, who are the people finding no fault in everything Obama does? Is this a rage against the politically uninterested? > [@](#): > > He would not have been elected without the mass turnout of people who start their sentences with the word “dude”. Those cute but politically clueless clearly have not heeded his call to help out others he’s endorsed And Bush would not have been elected without the mass turnout of gay haters and the people afraid that their podunk town was going to be the target of a terrorist attack. So what? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201.md?page=3)