# Anyone feeling buyers remorse about Obama yet? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201 "2010-06-06T21:41:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Cort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/77aa72/32.png) [@Cort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cort)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/41 "2010-06-06T23:02:29Z")
> [@Evil One](#): > > Not much more needs to be said after reading that, Cort. “Astute” isn’t my first adjective of choice, though. Sagacious, perhaps? Judicious? _Au-courant_? How about plain old common-sense? Ultimately, Bush’s disastrous Presidency will be defined by the the Iraq war. I mean, I could talk about the Plame affair, the dismissal of United States attorneys, the orgy of deregulation over which he presided, or the drowning of New Orleans, but Iraq will be his enduring legacy. The Iraq war is a sucking maw, a meat grinder that needs more blood, more meat and bone every single day. Bush’s position insulates him from justice, and from the blood-spatter and brain tissue of all those young boys and Iraqi civilians that he had killed, but it doesn’t insulate him from their ghosts, and I hope he feels them brushing by him every day for the rest of his life. He is, in fact, a war criminal. Obama, having not started any immoral and needless wars, is still ahead on points. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/42 "2010-06-06T23:04:39Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > A short list of things: > > - Lowered troop presence in Iraq and raised levels in Afghanistan > - Worked to make Pakistan into an actual productive partner against al-Qaeda > - Taken the first steps towards restarting the construction of nuclear power plants > - Reversed the executive order barring federal funding for embryonic stem cell research I agree with you. These are all positives. > [@Jophiel](#): > > - Is trying (with significant barriers) to close Gitmo This is a knee-jerk sop to his liberal base that was not thought through. > [@Jophiel](#): > > - Saw a significant health care reform bill get made into law This will turn out to cost way too much for the benefits returned. > [@Jophiel](#): > > - Will most likely sign a financial industry reform bill before November Still an unknown. But I’m not sure I want anyone who says “corporate greed” with a straight face to be the ones “reforming” the financial system. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/43 "2010-06-06T23:07:36Z")
> [@kingbighair](#): > > And Bush would not have been elected without the mass turnout of gay haters and the people afraid that their podunk town was going to be the target of a terrorist attack. So what? Terrorists are a little bolder these days, it seems. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/44 "2010-06-06T23:16:31Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > My point is that there are a number of people who are ideologically incapable of seeing Obama as anything other than perfect. Not that I’ve ever noticed. What I HAVE noticed is the right wingers projecting their own _“The (Republican) President is the Chosen One, worship him”_ attitude onto their opponents. I don’t have “buyer’s remorse”; I never liked him. He’s much too far right, and much too spineless towards the Republicans - typical Democrat. But he was better than the alternative, and it’s not like I had the choice between Obama and some idealized alternative. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/45 "2010-06-06T23:18:22Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > I agree with you. These are all positives. > > This is a knee-jerk sop to his liberal base that was not thought through. > > This will turn out to cost way too much for the benefits returned. > > Still an unknown. But I’m not sure I want anyone who says “corporate greed” with a straight face to be the ones “reforming” the financial system. All your opinions. But you asked if us folks who voted for him had remorse and I was explaining why my answer was “no”. I never expected a messiah but I wanted someone who’d get the shit done I wanted to see done and he’s been doing a fine job of that. As for the teleprompter remarks, he also looked and sounded great when he stood before the GOP House caucus for an hour and a half, fielding questions from a hostile audience on live television. In my opinion (YMMV) any criticisms of “Sure, he sounds good… _with a teleprompter!_” lost their already feeble sting right there. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/46 "2010-06-06T23:18:33Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > …But I’m not sure I want anyone who says “corporate greed”… Not to be confused with “vigorous and innovative entreprenuerial business models”. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/47 "2010-06-06T23:20:42Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > …As for the teleprompter remarks, he also looked and sounded great when he stood before the GOP House caucus for an hour and a half… He should have started that with “Welcome to school, bitches!”. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/48 "2010-06-06T23:23:36Z")
No buyer’s remorse here. Obama inherited a country with numerous horrifying problems. He’s made some missteps, but on the whole, I approve of how he’s handled his job. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/49 "2010-06-06T23:25:29Z")
Two words: Sarah Palin. No, it will take twelve terms of a Carter-style presidency before I even think about regret voting for Obama. With that being said, I feel like Obama has done a B plus job as president. My only gripes about him are areas where he’s preserved/expanded Bush-administration policies or attitudes. McCain sure as hell wasn’t going to make me happy in that regard. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/50 "2010-06-06T23:31:42Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > My point is that there are a number of people who are ideologically incapable of seeing Obama as anything other than perfect. And there are a number of people who are ideologically incapable of seeing Obama as anything other than Satan Incarnate. Your point is shit. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/51 "2010-06-06T23:37:28Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > And there are a number of people who are ideologically incapable of seeing Obama as anything other than Satan Incarnate. > > Your point is shit. You’re making the same point. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/52 "2010-06-06T23:45:00Z")
Obama… O"bambi"… Deer in the headlights, as predicted… ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/53 "2010-06-06T23:45:00Z")
No. I am amazed he has done as well as he has against the onslaught of Republican/Tea Party obstructionism. My regard for the Republican Party has declined since the election. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/54 "2010-06-06T23:50:49Z")
No buyer’s remorse. I voted for him and never bought into the “mesiah” image nor the “biggest socialist liberal evah” image. The media loves its extremes and likes to paint it both ways into the most extreme way possible. It’s kind of a trick question of “Are you happy with Obama?” since the bulk of the not happys are unhappy for the complete opposite reasons. The righties are not happy because any move he makes that’s not righty they are unhappy with. The lefties are not happy because any move he makes that’s left isn’t lefty enough. Neither side is happy somewhere inbetween. I’ll take his inbetween compromises any day lefty and righty be damned. If it’s either that or sit on our hands in a partisan stalemate I’ll take the “at least we’re trying something” position. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/55 "2010-06-06T23:52:08Z")
Anytime I reconsider my vote for Obama I remind myself McCain came in second. Considering McCain as the other option I’d vote for Obama every time. Most likely I’ll be voting for Obama a second term. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/56 "2010-06-06T23:52:10Z")
Of course I don’t have buyer’s remorse. Certainly I would prefer that an actual liberal had been elected President, but given the choices I had, I’d vote for Obama again and again and again. Just as certainly, there are things he has done that I don’t agree with, but he’s done a much better job as President than McCain would have, and he is much more in line with my beliefs than McCain is. So why should I regret voting for him? ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/57 "2010-06-06T23:58:09Z")
I think Obama is doing a swell job under decidedly less-than-ideal circumstances. No regrets here. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/58 "2010-06-07T00:02:33Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > Would you vote to re-elect him? I would. And to answer the original question, “No”. ---
**Author:** ![OneChance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/74df32/32.png) [@OneChance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneChance)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/59 "2010-06-07T00:03:18Z")
Buyer’s remorse? Not a chance. Not when the alternative was McCain/Palin. ---
**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201/60 "2010-06-07T00:03:51Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > He is turning out to be the Jimmy Carter clone I expected him to be. … I await both the astute political analysis many dopers are capable of…and the desperate tap dancing about how it’s all Bush’s fault. So you’ll call him another Jimmy Carter but you won’t accept comparisons to Bush? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-feeling-buyers-remorse-about-obama-yet/542201.md?page=4)