# Anyone following the Casey Anthony trial? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 29, 2011, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652 "2011-05-29T12:50:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/321 "2011-06-29T16:59:38Z")
I think this is a good example when you have a pretty well thought out prosecution and all the defense has as a goal is to plant ‘doubt’ - and they can’t manage to convincingly do that. They keep attempting to put George on trial here - it’s clearly not convincing (atleast to this internet viewer) or credible - the person to ask that question to would be Cindy - not George - anyway - and its still not clear that even if he was an abuser tht thta means he covered up the ‘drowning’ - might make him culpable in other areas - but it doesn’t show that Casey didn’t kill Caylee (directly or indirectly). ---
**Author:** ![conovox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@conovox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/conovox)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/322 "2011-06-29T17:02:24Z")
I actually thought about that during earlier periods of testimony. But short of going to that length, at least he could not seemingly answer defense questions with such defensiveness, …wow, even as I’m writing this I’m coming around to see how silly my theory really is, b/c ‘admitting’ to it while on the stand would clearly be the best resolution to my theory. You’re clearly much more aligned w/reality here if for no other reason than that. GA simply has a tough row to hoe gven the facts on the ground. Wow. Thanks. What a ride, still ! ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/323 "2011-06-29T17:02:34Z")
> [@conovox](#): > > I mean, one of them committed perjury, clearly, and with forethought, correct? Agreed … it was Cindy. She’ll get convicted of it down the road. ---
**Author:** ![conovox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@conovox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/conovox)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/324 "2011-06-29T17:03:57Z")
Can’t believe I did that. Sorry. Heck, I won our county spelling bee back in '75, too ! Oops. But didn’t one of them commit perjury, by definition? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/325 "2011-06-29T17:09:16Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > Agreed … it was Cindy. She’ll get convicted of it down the road. I guess I didn’t catch that - can you summarize the details please? ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/326 "2011-06-29T17:12:22Z")
> [@simster](#): > > I guess I didn’t catch that - can you summarize the details please? From elsewhere, with video link included for more detail: > [@](#): > > [Bill Sheaffer is nearly giddy](http://www.wftv.com/video/28388119/index.html) (go to the 7:00 mark) about the prosecution’s rebuttal phase where they have lined up witnesses to impeach Cindy Anthony regarding her whereabouts on the days the web searches were made and potentially on work computer records that would show she couldn’t have been home on those search dates in March 2008. Cindy was making up some garbage about how they never saved emails and other computer records, but as Bill points out, legally you have to. Cindy’s cluelessness about computer searches and records are going to be her undoing in this particular issue. EDIT: I was merely giving my opinion that the state would pursue perjury charges here. Perhaps the state won’t. Apologies for stating my take authoritatively. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/327 "2011-06-29T17:23:30Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > From elsewhere, with video link included for more detail: > > EDIT: I was merely giving my opinion that the state would pursue perjury charges here. Perhaps the state won’t. Apologies for stating my take authoritatively. np on that - I figured there would be evidence showing Cindy was “mistaken” about her searches and timing - I’m only following the CNN snippets, so I am not at all surprised here - just glad I didn’t miss something. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/328 "2011-06-29T17:30:16Z")
The guy on HLN said this morning that when the photos of Caylee’s body were first shown, the jury was out of the room. Casey showed no emotion when she saw the photos, but when the jury came back and the photos were shown to them, she broke down and cried. But not until the jury was back in the room. Damn. George could have helped the defense if he’d known what their story was going to be, if Baez had gotten to him before he made all those statements to the police. Didn’t Kronk admit to poking a pole through an eye hole in the skull and picking up the bag with the pole? I only caught pieces of his testimony, so maybe I misheard, or heard an allegation rather than testimony. If he did that, it seems to support the prosecution – that the mandible was still attached, because of the duct tape. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/329 "2011-06-29T17:43:11Z")
Why are they arguing whether or not George had a girlfriend/mistress? If he’s celibate or if he’s the most unfaithful husband in Florida what conceivable bearing does it have on the case? Not a rhetorical question- does anybody know the defense’s logic? ---
**Author:** ![conovox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@conovox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/conovox)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/330 "2011-06-29T17:46:36Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Why are they arguing whether or not George had a girlfriend/mistress? If he’s celibate or if he’s the most unfaithful husband in Florida what conceivable bearing does it have on the case? Not a rhetorical question- does anybody know the defense’s logic? She’s on record saying that he told her that the death was an accident that got out of control. The affair isn’t their main goal, it’s her statement. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/331 "2011-06-29T17:51:33Z")
> [@conovox](#): > > She’s on record saying that he told her that the death was an accident that got out of control. That’s the defense’s interpretation of what she said he told her. It’s not that straightforward. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/332 "2011-06-29T17:58:37Z")
> [@conovox](#): > > She’s on record saying that he told her that the death was an accident that got out of control. The affair isn’t their main goal, it’s her statement. > [@Marley23](#): > > That’s the defense’s interpretation of what she said he told her. It’s not that straightforward. I’m pretty sure she hasn’t testified in this case…so as far as the trial of Casey Anthony, it is not on the record…yet. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/333 "2011-06-29T18:40:36Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > I’m pretty sure [George’s purported other woman] hasn’t testified in this case…so as far as the trial of Casey Anthony, it is not on the record…yet. She was never deposed at any time in the past? Weird that info about her would just appear at the start of the trial. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/334 "2011-06-29T18:48:19Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > She was never deposed at any time in the past? Weird that info about her would just appear at the start of the trial. I’d say the info has been there - but the prosecution is not trying George for adultry. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/335 "2011-06-29T18:54:31Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > She was never deposed at any time in the past? Weird that info about her would just appear at the start of the trial. Even if she has been deposed previously, unless she testifies before the jury or before the judge in some sort of proffer, then her statements are not part of the court proceedings. If she was considered even remotely reliable, you can bet the defense would put her on the stand…given the far fetched theories they are trying to present already. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/336 "2011-06-29T19:28:00Z")
They’re rumored to be calling Cardinal Richelieu to the stand this afternoon. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/337 "2011-06-29T19:32:45Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > They’re rumored to be calling Cardinal Richelieu to the stand this afternoon. whoosh!!! ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/338 "2011-06-29T19:37:19Z")
> [@conovox](#): > > Point taken. But @ the end of the day it IS his flesh and blood. Death row ain’t checkers. > > Of course, I guess in either your theory or mine, he must be at the very least thin-skinned; but in my theory, he becomes an accomplice – or worse. > > I have to cling to my hope that even thin-skinned parents would put their own feelings aside in an effort to save an off-spring from **almost certain death**. **(bolding mine)** Even IF Casey Anthony is convicted of 1st-degree murder, and even IF the jury recommends the death penalty and the judge agrees, and even IF the recent federal court ruling that Florida’s death penalty is procedurally unconstitutional doesn’t get in the way of a death sentence, and even IF subsequent mandatory appeals are unsuccessful in reversing the death sentence, at the current pace of executions taking place in Florida, Casey Anthony’s life expectancy is probably much better than yours or mine. Almost certain death? Hardly. I get the feeling that George Anthony has come to believe that his daughter deserves life in prison without parole. He doesn’t want her executed (and she most likely won’t ever be) but doesn’t want her to ever get out. Life in prison is the best place for her, and I get the feeling that even SHE wants that. I mean, what would her life be like if she were released tomorrow or 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years from now? I really think she doesn’t want to be executed, but she’s cool with life in prison - that would go a long way to explaining her demeanor throughout the trial. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/339 "2011-06-29T20:26:43Z")
Ashton obviously has no confidence in grief counseling. ☹ He’s treating this lady like she’s some kook. He ought to talk to some first responders at 9/11 or Katrina. Grief counselors do critical work. Helping people that might otherwise be destroyed by what they saw. I rather hear a grief counselor that’s done the real world work than some Psychiatrist that’s only read books. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/340 "2011-06-29T20:30:31Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Ashton obviously has no confidence in grief counseling. ☹ He’s treating this lady like she’s some kook. What’s the grief counselor testifying about? Defense witness to establish that Casey’s post-death demeanor was within the range of “normal”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652.md?page=18)