# Anyone following the Casey Anthony trial? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 29, 2011, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652 "2011-05-29T12:50:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/381 "2011-06-30T22:56:08Z")
> [@conovox](#): > > can you imagine the jurors’ households, who you know are all recording all this media coverage? how cool will it be to see how ‘we’ were seeing this case vs. what they were seeing? I hadn’t thought of that but yeah, the jurors will find it interesting, hearing stuff they couldn’t hear before. Can the jurors keep their privacy after it’s all over? ---
**Author:** ![conovox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@conovox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/conovox)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/382 "2011-06-30T22:56:39Z")
the ONLY hook baez can hang the suicide / note on is that george faked the suicide attempt ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/383 "2011-06-30T23:48:11Z")
> [@conovox](#): > > the ONLY hook baez can hang the suicide / note on is that george faked the suicide attempt which would be a 180 from what Baez has said so far - which would only serve to show the jury that Baez really doesn’t have a defense for his client. Has he proven any of the facts that he said he would in his opening statement? WHat facts has he proven that show Casey did not kill Caylee (and that george did)? Mind you - I’m not saying he _has_ to prove his statements - his only job is to create ‘reasonable doubt’ - but generally you don’t make the kinds of statements he did without some actual evidence. Or maybe I just watch too much tv. The closings should be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/384 "2011-07-01T00:07:19Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > The young dude that works at TGIFriday’s in Orlando that flipped off the prosecution attorney while court was in session, just got 6 days in the County jail and a $400 fine. The judge in this case is not light. That’s a [scared looking guy](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-trial-matthew-bartle20110630,0,5798032.story). I think 6 days is draconian but I can’t feel much sympathy; it was such a dick thing to do, and I’m guessing it will have complete success in stopping him from doing it again. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/385 "2011-07-01T02:32:42Z")
The only explanation I can fathom for why a 28 year old is at the trial, and why he flipped off the prosecutor, is that he has the hots for Casey and thinks she’s innocent. If he isn’t already writing her in jail, I bet he will be now that he has some extra time on his hands. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/386 "2011-07-01T02:54:09Z")
The talking heads at CNN are making a big deal out of trying to read Casey’s lips when her dad was testifying today. They think she’s saying “son of a bitch” but that’s not at all what I’m seeing. And how lame has the TV commentary/coverage been? Loudmouth lawyers, bail bondsmen (or is Padilla a bounty hunter?), body language experts, criminologists, psychologists – everything but a phrenologist and a psychic. None of them with much insight and none of them really going into the legalities. I’ve learned more about trial practice from this thread than from them. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/387 "2011-07-01T12:38:54Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > That’s a [scared looking guy](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-trial-matthew-bartle20110630,0,5798032.story). I think 6 days is draconian but I can’t feel much sympathy; it was such a dick thing to do, and I’m guessing it will have complete success in stopping him from doing it again. Once the Birdman of Orlando starts making the talk show rounds, he’ll come out ahead in the matter. It was rather stupid. Flipping off Ashton to his back. Actually, I’m surprised he was caught doing it. Someone must be really watching the spectators carefully. If I were Casey, I’d be praying the jury didn’t come back with a guilty verdict, because this judge has only one sentencing speed. MAx. ---
**Author:** ![Winnie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e480ec/32.png) [@Winnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winnie)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/388 "2011-07-01T12:50:26Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Once the Birdman of Orlando starts making the talk show rounds, he’ll come out ahead in the matter. It was rather stupid. Flipping off Ashton to his back. Actually, I’m surprised he was caught doing it. Someone must be really watching the spectators carefully. They are being watched VERY carefully. I’ve heard several reports of spectators being ushered out for sleeping, texting, making noises that are distracting to the jury, or reacting too strongly to the testimonies. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/389 "2011-07-01T13:06:00Z")
George wipes his hands when he leaves stand yesterday. Looks like he was doing this towards Casey… [http://www.wftv.com/video/28417828/index.html](http://www.wftv.com/video/28417828/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/390 "2011-07-01T13:48:46Z")
> [@Winnie](#): > > They are being watched VERY carefully. I’ve heard several reports of spectators being ushered out for sleeping, texting, making noises that are distracting to the jury, or reacting too strongly to the testimonies. I read that the court was made aware of the incident when the local TV station taping the trial pointed it out by showing a picture to court officials who then showed it to the judge. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/391 "2011-07-01T13:59:48Z")
I thought it odd that during sentencing his income is $15,000 per year, that he lives alone, his expenses are $1,500 per month, and that he has a couple of hundred dollars in checking and savings combined, and he owns no property (or none worth more than $4,000), but then when asked how much time he needed to come up with $600+ in court costs and fine he said “I can pay it now”. Either his parents are subsidizing him (which if so he’s a bit old for) or he’s got side money coming in. If I were his manager at TGI Fridays I doubt I’d fire him (assuming he’s an okay employee) because he’ll be bringing in the patrons for a couple of weeks. Plus, it was an ultra stupid thing to do but nobody was hurt and I think 6 days in jail more than clears him with the house. I’d have probably given him overnight plus the fine and then probation, or, to quote Esteban from _Kill Bill 2_, “maybe just cut him a little bit”. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/392 "2011-07-01T14:23:36Z")
Wow. I just saw the video of him flipping the bird and it was VERY minor and subtle. I’m not surprised nobody noticed at the time, and I think even the camera got lucky to catch it at the time they just happened to be pointing in that direction. The kid was sitting in the back, and he was just wiping his face when he just ended the wipe with his middle finger and made a slight face. Yes, it was still stupid and wrong to do, but I was picturing a much more overt and extended hand gesture for getting 6 days in jail. If his public defender appeals and shows the video, I wouldn’t be surprised if that sentence was reduced. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/393 "2011-07-01T14:34:00Z")
Well, if his 6 days any anything like Lohan-time, he’ll not only by out by lunch, he probably won’t have time for a mug shot. 6 days is a draconian punishment, though. And I did the math with his finances, and came up with the same numbers, **Sampiro**. As a server, $15K is probably what he reports to the IRS. His tips might be a lot higher. StG ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/394 "2011-07-01T14:45:41Z")
So if he is appealing the decision, does that mean the 6 days is suspended until the appeal or is he already serving? Has anybody noticed the HUGE guy sitting behind the prosecutor’s table? He’s of a size that would probably require two seats on an airplane. It’s one of those “why is he there?” things as well. (Not saying morbidly obese people don’t have a right to go in public, but why would somebody so obviously unhealthy want to spend time watching a boring court proceeding [and for every ‘scintillating’ minute in the testimony there’s half an hour of monotonous droning].) ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/395 "2011-07-01T15:07:53Z")
Regarding the Birdman of Orlando (ha!, btw), is one not allowed to pay fines by credit card in Florida? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/396 "2011-07-01T16:16:15Z")
so - it just occurred to me - the defense expert witness on ‘grief’ - pretty much said that everything Casey did during the month Caylee was missing would be ‘in line with’ what a person might do if they had lost a child due to death (or I assume loss in any way) - Didn’t that just prove that Casey was well aware that Caylee was already dead/gone and not 'at the nanny’s?" IOW all her actions can be explained by someone grieving - not someone ‘searching for a missing child’. or did I miss something more subtle? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/397 "2011-07-01T16:18:28Z")
[QUOTE=simster] Didn’t that just prove that Casey was well aware that Caylee was already dead/gone and not 'at the nanny’s?" [/QUOTE] That had already been established. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/398 "2011-07-01T16:27:30Z")
> [@Winnie](#): > > They are being watched VERY carefully. I’ve heard several reports of spectators being ushered out for sleeping, texting, making noises that are distracting to the jury, or reacting too strongly to the testimonies. Spectators are not allowed to bring phones into the courtroom. Even the credentialed media are only allowed electronic devices with touchscreens instead of keyboards. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/399 "2011-07-01T16:29:54Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > That had already been established. I guess thats true as well - I was reffering to the charges of lieing to the police - ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652/400 "2011-07-01T17:12:12Z")
> [@simster](#): > > I guess thats true as well - I was reffering to the charges of lieing to the police - Her whole defense has been based on that it was an accident, that she knew Caylee was dead, and that she lied to police about the nanny etc. because she was brought up to lie by her molesting father. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-following-the-casey-anthony-trial/583652.md?page=21)