# Anyone from Tucson - odd property

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [December 25, 2022, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-from-tucson-odd-property/977066 "2022-12-25T04:07:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-from-tucson-odd-property/977066/1 "2022-12-25T04:07:27Z")

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I notice this huge open lot with a couple of houses on E Grant Rd. Of course, much of Grant Rd around here used to look like this into the mid 1980s. Are they just hold outs not wanting to give up their land?

https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=32.2519812,-110.8856166&z=17&output=embed&dg=ntvb

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-from-tucson-odd-property/977066/2 "2022-12-25T06:16:26Z")

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Between Rosemont and Swan? I **think** one of them used to have a cow or two, doubtless so they could claim it was being used for agricultural purposes for lower taxes; you could see the cows if you walked along the Rillito. I don’t know if they like living there or if they’re holding out for a ginormous offer from developers.

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**Author:** ![brossa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brossa/32/3040_2.png) [@brossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brossa)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-from-tucson-odd-property/977066/3 "2022-12-26T18:04:57Z")

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Here’s the Pima County assessor’s page for that property - make of it what you will. [Pima County Assessor’s Office](https://www.asr.pima.gov/Parcel/Index)

If it doesn’t autoload, it’s parcel(s) 11011179C and 11011180A

FWIW, it’s listed as “Vacant Residential Urban Non-Subdivided” where the ‘vacant’ seems to mean no significant site or structural improvements.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-from-tucson-odd-property/977066/4 "2022-12-26T18:55:03Z")

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Hard to guess about the motives of the folks living there, but I’d figure if they’re holding out for more money it might be a while before they cash in. That land would have made a good addition to the Crossroads Festival shopping center once upon a time but I’m guessing the management there is more worried about filling their vacancies and hoping Bed Bath & Beyond doesn’t go belly-up than about plans for expansion.

Be nice if they could dedicate a small sliver of that land to the Arcadia Greenway when they do decide to sell, though…

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**Author:** ![md-2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@md-2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md-2000)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-from-tucson-odd-property/977066/5 "2022-12-27T00:38:13Z")

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There’s an Outback Steakhouse just down the street. Why would they want to sell their house?

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-from-tucson-odd-property/977066/6 "2022-12-27T09:07:09Z")

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Looking at the gridworld around them, if I owned a piece of land like that and lived on it, damn sure I’d want to keep it that way.

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**Author:** ![brossa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brossa/32/3040_2.png) [@brossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brossa)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-from-tucson-odd-property/977066/7 "2022-12-27T13:51:45Z")

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I don’t know if I’m reading it correctly, but the assessor’s site suggests that the assessed value of the property has gone down significantly between 2012 ($1.3 million) and today ($443K). Rezoned? Depressed market? Poltergeists found?

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**Author:** ![Sigene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-from-tucson-odd-property/977066/8 "2022-12-27T18:33:54Z")

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well the owners were an interesting rabbit hole to explore.
