# Anyone have experience with VRT exercise? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 1, 2015, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-have-experience-with-vrt-exercise/716472 "2015-04-01T02:37:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CaptainAmerica\_1987](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@CaptainAmerica\_1987](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptainAmerica_1987)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-have-experience-with-vrt-exercise/716472/1 "2015-04-01T02:37:35Z")
I’ve recently decided to pursue VRT ( Visualized Resistance Training ) exercise. It was created by a man named Greg Mangan. Anyone have any experience with it and what do you think of it? Pros and Cons? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Joker\_and\_the\_Thief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e79b87/32.png) [@The\_Joker\_and\_the\_Thief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Joker_and_the_Thief)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-have-experience-with-vrt-exercise/716472/2 "2015-04-01T02:54:05Z")
[It’s evidently a scam.](http://www.vrtsystem.com/) Grab a copy of Starting Strength and follow that. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-have-experience-with-vrt-exercise/716472/3 "2015-04-01T03:17:19Z")
Just out of curiosity, how many different and alternative plans are you planning on deciding to pursue? Is it 10 pull ups as a goal, or Body by Science that is the plan …? How about the advice you gave in one thread - do something fun that you like? (And nothing wrong with a standard approach like Starting Strength or Stronglifts.) ---
**Author:** ![CaptainAmerica\_1987](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@CaptainAmerica\_1987](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptainAmerica_1987)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-have-experience-with-vrt-exercise/716472/4 "2015-04-01T03:17:42Z")
Well what has been your experience with it? ---
**Author:** ![CaptainAmerica\_1987](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@CaptainAmerica\_1987](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptainAmerica_1987)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-have-experience-with-vrt-exercise/716472/5 "2015-04-01T03:24:06Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Just out of curiosity, how many different and alternative plans are you planning on deciding to pursue? Is it 10 pull ups as a goal, or Body by Science that is the plan …? > How about the advice you gave in one thread - do something fun that you like? (And nothing wrong with a standard approach like Starting Strength or Stronglifts.) Well 10 pull ups is something one hopes to do. I asked before about body by science to try and find info about it, which I am not going after. There are a couple of different things out there to try and before going after one I would think it’s a good idea to try and get different opinions about it first. Also access to weights isn’t really an option now. ---
**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-have-experience-with-vrt-exercise/716472/6 "2015-04-02T22:54:30Z")
> [@The\_Joker\_and\_the\_Thief](#): > > [It’s evidently a scam.](http://www.vrtsystem.com/) > > Grab a copy of Starting Strength and follow that. That cite has _got_ to be a put-on. I haven’t seen that obvious a scam in 50 years - it makes “As Seen On TV!” look like peer-reviewed science. Thanks for a chuckle! ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-have-experience-with-vrt-exercise/716472/7 "2015-04-03T04:42:34Z")
> [@CaptainAmerica\_1987](#): > > Well 10 pull ups is something one hopes to do. I asked before about body by science to try and find info about it, which I am not going after. There are a couple of different things out there to try and before going after one I would think it’s a good idea to try and get different opinions about it first. > > Also access to weights isn’t really an option now. There have been [lots](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=701244) of [threads](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=701244) suggesting programs that develop strength and fitness with little or no cost investment. As has been suggested there are many bodyweight and calisthenic approaches and some that add in weights that you make yourself (just water or sand or concrete in used milk jugs and an old backpack filled with bricks or even books). Stronglifts and the ilk are fine but also not the only way. Anything mix of something that gets your breathing a bit hard with resistance exercises that you can and do progressively make harder (by varying combinations of increased reps and/or increased difficulty) will do it. So for example [the one I recommended](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18117691&postcount=13) in one of those threads: > [@](#): > > How about this for a basic starting plan - > > Day one, a mix of sets of pull-ups, push-ups, burpees, turkish get ups and squats. > Day two yoga. > Repeat. > > The key on the day one part of the cycle Jake is to be steadily progressive. Take pull-ups. At the start you might need to jump up and just slowly lower yourself down. Then you might be able to do a few. At some point you might work on progressions to doing them one armed or while wearing a backpack. Just keep ramping it up as you get stronger. Push-ups also can be made easier by doing the kneeling style ones or harder both by doing more and by doing clapping ones, or one armed progressions, or a host of other variations. Nothing magical about it but it would take you far. Rings (which you had a thread about) are great btw, but not for everyone. No offense intended here but one has to wonder if your ongoing analysis phase trying to find the ideal short cut is more of a way to delay starting a program than anything else.