# Anyone have some obscure Christmas movie suggestions?

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**Created:** [November 18, 2007, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-have-some-obscure-christmas-movie-suggestions/426967 "2007-11-18T23:47:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-have-some-obscure-christmas-movie-suggestions/426967/21 "2007-11-19T02:38:01Z")

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Die Hard 2 is my traditional Xmas fare

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The Mexican-made SANTA CLAUS in which Santa, who employs an international array of children on his space-station workshop, fights a devil who is assigned to ruin Christmas- also given the MST3K treatment but AFAIK, that version is not yet released on VHS/DVD.

JOHNNY GOT HIS GUN has one Christmas scene in it.

ONE TRAGIC …um, that’s ONE MAGIC CHRISTMAS- a Disney film with Harry Dean Stanton as the most sad-sack guardian angel ever.

And of course, the obligatory mention of MERRY CHRISTMAS, MR. LAWRENCE

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[QUOTE=FriarTed]  
JOHNNY GOT HIS GUN has one Christmas scene in it.  
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Merry Christmas! I am the boss, and _this_ is champagne.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-have-some-obscure-christmas-movie-suggestions/426967/24 "2007-11-19T03:15:51Z")

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Bad Santa, and another vote for The Ref.

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[QUOTE=Johnny L.A.]  
Nope. It’s the same version they used to show every year on Family Film Festival (KTLA-5, L.A., hosted by Tom Hatten).  
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Would he counterpoint the films by attempting to draw Santa Claus conquering the Martians as he did Popeye?

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-have-some-obscure-christmas-movie-suggestions/426967/26 "2007-11-19T03:39:37Z")

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[The Christmas Season Massacre](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0303847/)

The best critical response they found to put on the DVD Box was “Don’t attempt to watch sober.”

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[QUOTE=Eolbo]  
I recommend **“A Midnight Clear”** an unusual war film set in the Ardennes in Christmas 1944  
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Yay! I’m not the lone voice anymore advocating [this film](http://www.amazon.com/Midnight-Clear-Peter-Berg/dp/B0000648X7/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1195443300&sr=8-4). Another, which you will probably have to buy, is Truman Capote’s **A Christmas Memory.**

Oh, and of course I must mention [**Silent Night, Deadly Night**](http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Night-Deadly-Jonathan-Best/dp/B000WC38A0/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1195443718&sr=8-1).

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-have-some-obscure-christmas-movie-suggestions/426967/28 "2007-11-19T03:43:16Z")

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A good recent Christmas movie is “Joyeux Noel” (2005);

> **[Joyeux Noel (2005) ⭐ 7.7 | Drama, History, Music](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424205/)**
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> 1h 56m | PG-13

An old and obscure one is “The Cheaters” (1945);

> **[The Cheaters (1945) ⭐ 6.8 | Comedy, Drama, Romance](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037588/)**
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> 1h 27m | Passed

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If you’re in the mood for something quieter but very offbeat, I recommend the Scottish film, [Comfort and Joy](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087072/). You’ll never look at ice cream men in quite the same way.

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_The Christmas That Almost Wasn’t but Then Was._

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DONOVAN’S REEF with John Wayne and Lee Marvin…

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[Bush Christmas](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039231/): a very dated, post-war effort set in Australia.

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Someone once forced me to watch “A Midnight Clear” and I’ve never forgiven him. It is a really powerful, horrible, miserable experience. Good (maybe great) filmmaking, gave me nightmares for weeks.

My yearly Christmas movie is “The Lion in Winter.” It’s a much happier film.

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_Bad Santa_, and not just because of the sex and my car. There is bad words and violence, too.

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[QUOTE=Annie]  
Die Hard 2 is my traditional Xmas fare  
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Die Hard 1 for me! “Now I have a machine gun. Ho ho ho!”

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-have-some-obscure-christmas-movie-suggestions/426967/36 "2007-11-19T04:38:56Z")

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I vote for the MST3K version of the Mexican Santa Claus, as ref’d above.

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The Man Who Came to Dinner

Black Christmas

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[QUOTE=FriarTed]  
And of course, the obligatory mention of MERRY CHRISTMAS, MR. LAWRENCE  
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You beat me to it. Two musicians in the lead roles (David Bowie and Sakamoto Ryuuichi), but no music. Also features “Beat” Takeshi Kitano before he was really famous.  
**Gremlins** isn’t exactly obscure, but it’s not standard Christmas fare and nobody seems to have mentioned it yet. Deserves mention for the “why I hate Christmas” speech.

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Well, I’ve got to chime in with my usual note of Rankin-Bass’ _The Life and Adventures of Santa Claus_—from the story by L. Frank Baum.

Contrary to popular belief, this is not a stop-motion Christmas movie on crack…this is a stop-motion Christmas movie on _peyote_.

And since _Die Hard_ has been brought up…technically Disney’s _The Black Hole_ takes place around christmas (According to elements of the script that didn’t actually make it to filming).

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-have-some-obscure-christmas-movie-suggestions/426967/40 "2007-11-19T10:58:22Z")

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If it’s at all available, try and get a copy of [The Angel, the Bicycle and the Chinaman’s Finger](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0438769/) - about a small town in South Africa putting on a Nativity play as an exercise in post-apartheid reconciliation.  
It’s funnier than it sounds.

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