# Anyone know any books/stories with a griffin in it?

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**Created:** [April 8, 2002, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-any-books-stories-with-a-griffin-in-it/102565 "2002-04-08T22:03:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Griffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_Griffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Griffin)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2002, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-any-books-stories-with-a-griffin-in-it/102565/1 "2002-04-08T22:03:03Z")

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The mythological creature. Head, wings and tallons of an eagle, rear of a lion.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
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[Here](http://gryphonguild.org/gryphbooklist.html) you go!

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Many of the Dungeons and Dragons novels include griffins (they’re pretty standard fantasy monster fare). I have one recollection of griffins being summoned as transport for the adventuring party in Tracy Hickman’s / Margaret Weis’ famous Dragonlance _Chronicles_ trilogy. I could be mixing this up with another one of those novels, however.

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Neil Gaiman’s _Sandman_ series has a castle guarded by a griffin, a winged horse, and a wyvern. I’d recommend the ninth and tenth trade paperbacks if you’re just interested in griffins.

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**Author:** ![The\_Griffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_Griffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Griffin)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2002, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-any-books-stories-with-a-griffin-in-it/102565/5 "2002-04-08T22:21:37Z")

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Thanks guys!

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Oh, I forgot the ‘stories’ part of the question. Check out these links on Griffins (or Gryphons) in Greek mythology and art:

[Bullfinch’s Mythology](http://www.bulfinch.org/fables/bull16.html)  
[Mythography](http://www.loggia.com/myth/griffin.html)

And, since I found such an excellent link while Googling, here’s a  
[link](http://www.enteract.com/~tirya/literature.html) that provides an extensive list of griffins in literature.

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2002, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-any-books-stories-with-a-griffin-in-it/102565/7 "2002-04-08T22:27:19Z")

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try “A Griffin in the Garden”

[http://hallkidspoetry.com/fairy\_tales\_folk\_tales\_myths/732.shtml](http://hallkidspoetry.com/fairy_tales_folk_tales_myths/732.shtml)

or about 50 books on this list

[http://www.enteract.com/~tirya/literature.html](http://www.enteract.com/~tirya/literature.html)

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2002, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-any-books-stories-with-a-griffin-in-it/102565/8 "2002-04-08T22:34:06Z")

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\<trivia moment\>  
The Spanish word for faucet or water tap is “grifo” (griffin) because the first ones were in the form of a griffin. It sounds so weird in English though: The kitchen griffin is dripping… better call the vet… errr, the plumber.  
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**Author:** ![The\_Griffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_Griffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Griffin)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2002, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-any-books-stories-with-a-griffin-in-it/102565/9 "2002-04-08T22:44:32Z")

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lol sailer!

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**Author:** ![John\_Kentzel-Griffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ccd318/32.png) [@John\_Kentzel-Griffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Kentzel-Griffin)\
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General Questions is for questions with factual answers. Cafe Society is for discussions about literature and such-like.

I’ll move this to Cafe Society for you.

**DrMatrix** - General Questions Moderator

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Mercedes Lackey has a trilogy of books titled, in order, _The Black Gryphon_, _The White Gryphon_, and _The Silver Gryphon_. The first is pretty good, the second slightly less good, and the third sucks on toast.

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Roger Zelazny’s **Unicorn Variations** has a cute short story with a griffen

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_The Sword in the Stone_ has a griffin episode. Unfortunately, Sir Kay slays the thing in mid-attack.

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There’s an episode of Family Guy where Peter (Griffin) is in a restaurant or something, trying to come up with a fake name, so he names off things he sees around him: “Pea… eater… griffin.”

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> \*Originally posted by DMC \*  
> \*\*[Here](http://gryphonguild.org/gryphbooklist.html) you go! \*\*

The list linked here includes one of my favorite books of all time, “Orlando Furioso” by Lodovico Ariosto.  
Check that one out.  
Truly a great read!

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**Post date:** [April 9, 2002, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-any-books-stories-with-a-griffin-in-it/102565/16 "2002-04-09T07:24:18Z")

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[Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland](http://www.cs.indiana.edu/metastuff/wonder/wonderdir.html).

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T.H. White’s **The Book of Beasts** is a translation (with commentary) of a medieval bestiary. Well worth reading, for lots of reasons. The Dover edition has a griffin on the cover. It’s a period illustration (it’s inside the book, too), and illustrates the section on griffins.

I highly recommend Adrienne Mayor’s **The First Fossil Hunters** , which has a chapter on griffins, and a probable explanation of their genesis and development.

and **Dijon Warlock** beat me to Alice in Wonderland. Read the Martin Gardner-annotated edition, if you can.

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I’m pretty sure there’s one in Clifford Simak’s inferior fantasy The Fellowship of the Talisman. At least I remember one being on the cover :D. That’s frankly about all I remember about it, other than it bit. Hard. I’m fond of Simak and his “pastoral” style of science-fiction, but I recall thinking this attempt was pretty crappy.

So it might not be worth your time 🙂 .

- Tamerlane

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The _Harry Potter_ books have _hippogriffs_ (half-horse/half-eagle) in them. They’re close cousins of griffins.

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> [@](#):
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> The Harry Potter books have hippogriffs (half-horse/half-eagle) in them. They’re close cousins of griffins.

“The _hippogriff_ is a beast that is half horse and half griffin. The griffin, in turn, was half eagle and half lion. The hippogriff was therefore one-quarter eagle, which is $2.50. The study of biology is full of surprises.”

– Ambrose Bierce **The Devil’s Dictionary**

(In case you don’t know, the _Eagle_ was a gold U.S. coin that disappeared around 100 years ago. It was worth $10, and had an eagle on one side.)
