# Anyone know how to read the writing in the Mandarin logo in Iron Man 3?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [May 5, 2013, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516 "2013-05-05T02:59:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/21 "2013-05-10T21:44:20Z")

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> [@ebeb85MGL](#):
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> f\*ck off dis chinese. it is mongolian traditional script. “Tsagaan urt , nogoon urt , ulaan urt etc.” It means White Long , green long , red long etc…

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2013, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/22 "2013-05-11T05:37:09Z")

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> [@ebeb85MGL](#):
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> f\*ck off dis chinese. it is mongolian traditional script. “Tsagaan urt , nogoon urt , ulaan urt etc.” It means White Long , green long , red long etc…

Thanks for your answer! Do you speak Mongolian? Can you tell us why the flag would say “White Long, Green Long”, etc? That doesn’t mean anything in English.

Also, can you write those phrases out so we can see what they’re supposed to look like without the fancy calligraphy on the flags?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2013, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/23 "2013-05-11T11:11:22Z")

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May I suggest that the thread title be changed to “Anyone know how to read the writing in Mandarin’s logo in Iron Man 3?”

I’d’ve suggested this before, but I thought the thread was dead, so no need.

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**Author:** ![zaraa\_1983](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e36b37/32.png) [@zaraa\_1983](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zaraa_1983)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/24 "2013-05-14T14:13:08Z")

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The script is Traditional Mongolian script. I immediately recognized it as I used to study it in my elementary school. You can install it in Windows and try it out for yourself. You can image google Mongolian script to find the same kind of writing. Very few Mongolians themselves can read and understand the language.

As far as the meaning, they are the names of ancient Mongolian clan names before Chingis Khan united them under one nation named “Mongol”. Much like the old testament is an ancient book about a history of the Jewish people, there is an ancient book about Mongolian history called The Secret Book of the Mongols. These clans are mentioned there.

The words and the translations I can understand are  
khar-ord - black-clan  
khongirad  
khokh-ord - blue-clan  
olkhonud  
merged - snipers  
ulan-ord - red-clan  
nogai-ord  
jalair  
arulad  
tsagan-ord - white-clan

I only say these under what I can recall. Some facts stated here are not verified.

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**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/25 "2013-05-14T21:08:54Z")

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> [@zaraa\_1983](#):
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> The script is Traditional Mongolian script. I immediately recognized it as I used to study it in my elementary school. You can install it in Windows and try it out for yourself. You can image google Mongolian script to find the same kind of writing. Very few Mongolians themselves can read and understand the language.
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> As far as the meaning, they are the names of ancient Mongolian clan names before Chingis Khan united them under one nation named “Mongol”. Much like the old testament is an ancient book about a history of the Jewish people, there is an ancient book about Mongolian history called The Secret Book of the Mongols. These clans are mentioned there.
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> The words and the translations I can understand are  
> khar-ord - black-clan  
> khongirad  
> khokh-ord - blue-clan  
> olkhonud  
> merged - snipers  
> ulan-ord - red-clan  
> nogai-ord  
> jalair  
> arulad  
> tsagan-ord - white-clan
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> I only say these under what I can recall. Some facts stated here are not verified.

Interesting. How do you convert the romanization into traditional script?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/26 "2013-05-15T12:30:21Z")

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> [@zaraa\_1983](#):
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> Very few Mongolians themselves can read and understand the language.

[Mongolians in China can read and understand the writing](http://omniglot.com/writing/mongolian.htm):

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> In Inner Mongolian Autonomous Region of China the traditional Mongolian script is still used.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/27 "2013-05-15T12:39:31Z")

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I just checked some of my money here (I’m in China). Yep, the Mongolian script is on the money, too.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/28 "2013-05-15T13:16:43Z")

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Nitpick: so far as I know, there is no “Mandarin” script. Mandarin, Cantonese, and all other Chinese languages are all written in Chinese script.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/29 "2013-05-15T15:22:28Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Nitpick: so far as I know, there is no “Mandarin” script. Mandarin, Cantonese, and all other Chinese languages are all written in Chinese script.

[Now](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bopomofo), [you](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Chinese#Writing_system) [know](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Written_Cantonese).

When writing colloquially, there are some differences in writing of the different dialects (actually, languages; however, that’s yet another linguistic debate). “Standard Chinese” is also known as “Mandarin”.

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2013, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/30 "2013-05-17T09:36:27Z")

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Haha that is early Mongolian tribes names in early Mongolian script. Some names are written as incorrect also some names are Mongolian but no tribes were called themselves Khar Ord. That image is copied from a cheap souvenir for tourists.  
Hahaha how poor is HOLLYWOOD and their watchers.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2013, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/31 "2013-05-17T15:19:28Z")

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Actually, without saying too much lest I spoil the movie, that’s perfectly appropriate for how it’s used.

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2013, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/32 "2013-05-17T17:44:32Z")

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> [@baydlag](#):
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> Haha that is early Mongolian tribes names in early Mongolian script. Some names are written as incorrect also some names are Mongolian but no tribes were called themselves Khar Ord. That image is copied from a cheap souvenir for tourists.  
> Hahaha how poor is HOLLYWOOD and their watchers.

I…take it you have not seen the movie.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/33 "2013-05-18T02:12:08Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Actually, without saying too much lest I spoil the movie, that’s perfectly appropriate for how it’s used.

I was amazed at how gut-bustingly hilarious this entire thread is once you watch the movie…

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**Author:** ![AaronX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7bcc69/32.png) [@AaronX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AaronX)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/34 "2013-05-18T03:41:12Z")

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What is it with this thread and its ability to attract new posters? They’re all different people, right?

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/35 "2013-05-20T15:52:09Z")

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those were just clan names that were in X century in mongolia. Actually in mongolia almost everybody can read those. We learn that in elementary school.

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**Author:** ![AaronX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7bcc69/32.png) [@AaronX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AaronX)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/36 "2013-05-20T15:57:25Z")

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Ok, seriously? 5 new posters, who all post a single post here then vanish? Is this AIM?

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/37 "2013-05-20T16:08:41Z")

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> [@AaronX](#):
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> Ok, seriously? 5 new posters, who all post a single post here then vanish? Is this AIM?

Looks like this topic is the number 1 Google result for “mandarin logo writing.”

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/38 "2013-05-20T21:17:59Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Nitpick: so far as I know, there is no “Mandarin” script. Mandarin, Cantonese, and all other Chinese languages are all written in Chinese script.

I think your nitpick is misdirected. Nobody referred to Mandarin script, as far as I can tell.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/39 "2019-07-26T04:21:12Z")

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Its Traditional Mongolian Script and they mean impostor, damage ,snipers ,sacramental ,crimson ,black clan , green clan ,red clan ,D/blue clan , white clan!!Now then know it!! Cows!

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**Author:** ![MunkuuE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7993a0/32.png) [@MunkuuE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MunkuuE)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-how-to-read-the-writing-in-the-mandarin-logo-in-iron-man-3/657516/40 "2019-07-26T04:26:49Z")

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Yea they dont even know what is traditional mongolian script and dont compare our language with stupid chinese thingy

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