# Anyone know of a comprehensive (and free) resource to learn Classical Physics?

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**Author:** ![MattProle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ed8c4c/32.png) [@MattProle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MattProle)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-comprehensive-and-free-resource-to-learn-classical-physics/584088/1 "2011-06-02T15:31:18Z")

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As said in the title, I’m interested in learning Classical Physics. Not the high school / introductory college course version of classical physics, but the real deal. I’ve found bits and pieces of the Lagrangian / Hamiltonian formalisms, and thought they were quite elegant. Some lazy reading on Wikipedia / lectures on youtube have been useful for investigating several other concepts, like Chaos theory, Special / General Relativity, etc.

So I know that the essence of Classical Physics may be encapsulated by these accessible resources, but I’d still prefer to engage a single coherent text for the more intense math. Anyone know where I can obtain such a resource? I’ve tried my local book stores / libraries, and all they seem to have is high school level textbooks and pop science (admittedly, the texts on Quantum Mechanics are pretty solid).

~ Mattprole

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-comprehensive-and-free-resource-to-learn-classical-physics/584088/2 "2011-06-02T16:01:45Z")

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The book I used my freshman year was Kleppner and Kolenkow’s **An Introduction to Mechanics** , which is still in print:

> **[An Introduction To Mechanics: Kleppner,Daniel, Kolenkow,Robert: 9780070350489:...](https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Mechanics-Daniel-Kleppner/dp/0070350485)**
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> Buy An Introduction To Mechanics on Amazon.com ✓ FREE SHIPPING on qualified orders

It does an excellent job of introducing mathematically-based mechanics, and the problems are nicely challenging.

(If you get it, try a used copy. I can’t believe the new editions are &179 each!)

I’d also reccomend Symon’s **Mechanics** :

> **[Amazon.com: Mechanics (3rd Edition): 9780201073928: Symon, Keith R.: Books](https://www.amazon.com/Mechanics-3rd-Keith-R-Symon/dp/0201073927)**
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> Amazon.com: Mechanics (3rd Edition): 9780201073928: Symon, Keith R.: Books

Goldstein’s **Classical Mechanics** is a more advanced text, which will get you into Hamiltonians and Laplacians and Lagrangians:

> **[Classical Mechanics: Goldstein, Herbert, Poole, Charles, Safko, John:...](https://www.amazon.com/Classical-Mechanics-3rd-Herbert-Goldstein/dp/0201657023)**
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> Buy Classical Mechanics on Amazon.com ✓ FREE SHIPPING on qualified orders

Also, have a look at the MIT RELATE teaching wiki. I contributed to it:

[https://wikis.mit.edu/confluence/display/RELATE/RELATE+MechanicsWIKI+Home;jsessionid=DBD1D82AF86C82E47DAEF08273A9EEBA](https://wikis.mit.edu/confluence/display/RELATE/RELATE+MechanicsWIKI+Home;jsessionid=DBD1D82AF86C82E47DAEF08273A9EEBA)

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-comprehensive-and-free-resource-to-learn-classical-physics/584088/3 "2011-06-02T16:07:15Z")

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Wolfram can be a good source of physics info (Eric Weisstein’s World of Physics.) However, the topics are offered scattershot. For something more integrated and coherent, if I were you I’d get an old (and thus cheap) edition of a classical mechanics text, something like:

[Amazon link for Marion/Thornton, old edition](http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0030973023/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&qid=1307030554&sr=1-4&condition=used)

The lowest price is $7 for a used copy at the moment.

Alternatively, you could find someone who took a classical mechanics course in college (physics/engineering major) and see if they have an old textbook you could borrow.

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-comprehensive-and-free-resource-to-learn-classical-physics/584088/4 "2011-06-02T16:09:59Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Goldstein’s **Classical Mechanics** is a more advanced text, which will get you into Hamiltonians and Laplacians and Lagrangians:
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> [Classical Mechanics: Goldstein, Herbert, Poole, Charles, Safko, John: 9780201657029: Amazon.com: Books](http://www.amazon.com/Classical-Mechanics-3rd-Herbert-Goldstein/dp/0201657023)  
> [RELATE MechanicsWIKI Home - Modeling Applied to Problem Solving - MIT Wiki Service](https://wikis.mit.edu/confluence/display/RELATE/RELATE+MechanicsWIKI+Home;jsessionid=DBD1D82AF86C82E47DAEF08273A9EEBA)

I’m not familiar with Symon so I won’t comment, but Goldstein is probably more advanced than MattProle would want to start out with. My preferred textbook for introductory upper-level Classical is actually Taylor’s Classical Mechanics, but as that’s a fairly new book, cheap used copies aren’t available yet.

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I’d also reccomend Symon’s **Mechanics** :
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> [Amazon.com: Mechanics (3rd Edition): 9780201073928: Symon, Keith R.: Books](http://www.amazon.com/Mechanics-3rd-Keith-R-Symon/dp/0201073927)

Ugh. The problems in Symon still give me nightmares. I can’t begin to count the number of hours wasted, I mean spent, doing those.

If the proffesor drew your card out of the deck of cards, you had to present the problem on the blackboard for the class.

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**Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-comprehensive-and-free-resource-to-learn-classical-physics/584088/6 "2011-06-03T01:41:16Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I’m not familiar with Symon so I won’t comment, but Goldstein is probably more advanced than MattProle would want to start out with.

Indeed, so I said. If he wants a mathematically-grounded text, my recommendation is Kleppner and Kolenkow.  
(Kleppner was actually my professor for my Advanced Mechanics course In which we used Goldstein. Later on I got to work with him, sorta, on the RELATE Wiki)

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**Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-comprehensive-and-free-resource-to-learn-classical-physics/584088/7 "2011-06-03T02:36:11Z")

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> [@MattProle](#):
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> As said in the title, I’m interested in learning Classical Physics. Not the high school / introductory college course version of classical physics, but the real deal. I’ve found bits and pieces of the Lagrangian / Hamiltonian formalisms, and thought they were quite elegant. Some lazy reading on Wikipedia / lectures on youtube have been useful for investigating several other concepts, like Chaos theory, Special / General Relativity, etc.
> 
> So I know that the essence of Classical Physics may be encapsulated by these accessible resources, but I’d still prefer to engage a single coherent text for the more intense math. Anyone know where I can obtain such a resource? I’ve tried my local book stores / libraries, and all they seem to have is high school level textbooks and pop science (admittedly, the texts on Quantum Mechanics are pretty solid).
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> ~ Mattprole

I found Kleppner and Kolenkow’s An Introduction to Mechanics on ebay “like new” for $35.

Thanks for pointer.

I would like to find a sophomore or junior level text in Electricity and Magnetism. That was the next series I took after Mechanics. Any recommendations?

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-of-a-comprehensive-and-free-resource-to-learn-classical-physics/584088/8 "2011-06-04T02:42:06Z")

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Try here: [Search | MIT OpenCourseWare | Free Online Course Materials](http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/)

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I like to use the [Kahn Acadamy web page](http://www.khanacademy.org/#physics). Its free and fabulous. Its not a textbook, but an excellent, comprehensive source.
