# Anyone know what is supposedly up with John Travolta? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 10, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529 "2012-05-10T17:51:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/41 "2012-05-11T12:36:51Z")
> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#): > > Well, I care inasmuch as it is weird to me that in 2012, probably the most accepting time in modern human history for gay and lesbian people (particularly crazy-rich people in the entertainment industry) a guy like John Travolta would feel the need to hide from/lie to/mislead the public about his orientation. That’s assuming he is in the closet/gay/bi - I haven’t dismissed the idea that some people are trying to extort money out of the man. Fact is, I don’t know either way. Don’t particularly care much, either. Let the lawyers/courts fight it out. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/42 "2012-05-11T16:29:27Z")
> [@Woeg](#): > > Eh - hotness is subjective. Personally, I don’t like super skinny women with small boobs - I prefer them plumper and bustier. Many soccer moms fit my ideal of attractive better than scrawny Hollywood starlets. I don’t mind her weight . . . it’s just that 10% of her weight is in her lips. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/43 "2012-05-11T16:43:27Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > Seriously. I get the idea that AJ is nowhere near as hot as her reputation. And even relatively unacttractive. She doesn’t really do it for me anymore, but in the early 2000s, I did think she was just about the hottest woman on this planet. Laetitia Casta was the only one who I found hotter. ETA: Wait, and someone said Angelina Jolie has small boobs? I mean, they’re not absurdly huge, but they’re on the larger side of the scale for a fit person. I believe she’s a C cup. At least that’s what I’d guess–about a 36C. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/44 "2012-05-11T17:08:45Z")
> [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](#): > > Preach it! > > I don’t see what the attraction is with Halle Berry. Or Angelina Jolie for that matter. I’ve seen hotter women in everyday life, waitresses, co-workers and even in the grocery store. (Although most of them are usually in a relationship, go fig) About the only positive thing I can say about Halle is that at least she had a good sense of humor and actually showed up to receive her Razzie for _Catwoman._ > > Back on topic, I like JT. I think he’s a pretty good actor, despite the CofS thing. That’s about the only thing I don’t like about him. I know he’s usually an over the top actor, like his crazy film bro Tom Cruise, but, hell, it’s Hollyweird. They get paid to fake the crazy. Though I don’t think he’s that far from faking. > > As far as the gay thing goes, I don’t give a flap either way. Gay or not, I still like (most of) his movies. Although, I have never seen _Grease._ I think HB is hot, but, not ultra-ultra hot as the hype is put out about her. Same with Angelina. She is pretty spooky looking, now. Bad legs. Old, scrawny. She was hot in the Tomb Raider (?) previews, and in Sky Captain. But, now, her lips are just prunes, with the bod to match. The overblown hype about both of them makes them (thru no fault of their own, of course) less attractive to me. At any rate, I still wonder about John Travolta. That pic some years back of him kissing that one guy makes me think gay, but, there could be something else…dunno what, tho. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/45 "2012-05-11T17:44:09Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I believe she’s a C cup. At least that’s what I’d guess–about a 36C. Good guess: [Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (2001) - Trivia - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0146316/trivia) > [@](#): > > In the video game, Lara Croft is a 36DD. Angelina Jolie is naturally a 36C, and was padded to a 36D for the movie, as it was felt that padding to the original character size would be too unrealistic. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/46 "2012-05-11T17:59:10Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > At any rate, I still wonder about John Travolta. That pic some years back of him kissing that one guy makes me think gay, but, there could be something else…dunno what, tho. Magnetized fillings? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/47 "2012-05-11T18:15:31Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Good guess: [Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (2001) - Trivia - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0146316/trivia) Yeah, it’s not too tough to guess. On a woman in the 120-125 lb range (which I’m guessing Jolie to be normally, although she seems a bit skeleton-ish these days), for her height, 34 or 36 is a pretty dependable guess. The cup size is similar intuition. IIRC, 36C is the most common bra size (although looking this up, it appears that in America and the UK this has gone up to 36D. I seem to recall 34B being the most common once upon a time.) Anyhow, for somebody who is not much of a breast man, I know way too much about the subject. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/48 "2012-05-12T00:25:06Z")
> [@Woeg](#): > > Eh - hotness is subjective. Personally, I don’t like super skinny women with small boobs - I prefer them plumper and bustier. Many soccer moms fit my ideal of attractive better than scrawny Hollywood starlets. Many soccer moms? OK. The average soccer mom? No way. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/49 "2012-05-12T00:55:17Z")
> [@grude](#): > > The story is kind of interesting not because of whatever sexuality Travolta is but because of the constant attacks on him, is that really what happens in Hollywood? > > So like a straight star can expect constant and neverending blackmail attempts on being exposed as gay? Damn thats fucked up. Of course the proper response is to say who fucking cares and move on but whatever. the problem is not so much with Hollywood, as it is with the Church of Scientology that he is a member of. If he were to “come out”, he would be drummed out. This would hurt his career, as there are a lot of scientologists who would then not work with him, and it would destabilize him personally. Like any religion/cult, being a long term member of CoS means it is a central pillar in your personal identity. Having that whisked away would do untold damage to someone, and so it’s just easier to lie, both to the public and yourself. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/50 "2012-05-12T01:07:03Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Good guess: [Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (2001) - Trivia - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0146316/trivia) She wanted to do her own stunts, so the padding wasn’t up to Lara’s true bust size. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/51 "2012-05-12T01:19:43Z")
> [@Tristan](#): > > the problem is not so much with Hollywood, as it is with the Church of Scientology that he is a member of. If he were to “come out”, he would be drummed out. But that isn’t even really the issue. The issue is why all these rich and famous people are even Scientologists in the first place. I ponder the question because their headquarters is in my neighborhood and I see their multi-million-dollar foolishness on a daily basis. My theory is that–at one time–a lot of aspiring actors came to Hollywood and out of desperation tried Scientology hoping it might give them some kind of self-improvement to succeed. The early process (called “auditing”) is kind of like a confession, and during that they reveal their sexual preference, which goes into their file at Scientology. If that person should suddenly make it big, they’ll never be able to leave or recant Scientology, because Scientology has all this “dirt” on them. ---
**Author:** ![Moonchild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Moonchild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonchild)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/52 "2012-05-12T01:57:49Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > But that isn’t even really the issue. The issue is why all these rich and famous people are even Scientologists in the first place. The most common link between Hollywood actors and Scientology is the [Beverly Hills Playhouse](http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/15/magazine/15Katselas-t.html?_r=1). The lead guy (died in 2008) used the Scientology practices as tools to make for better actors but apparently also pressured students to join the cult… er, religion. Also well chronicled in this [Mike Haggis/Scientology](http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/02/14/110214fa_fact_wright) article in the New Yorker. I’ve heard lots of rumors (friend of a friend stuff – but friends in Hollywood circles) that Travolta’s gay (and this issue has been debated on SDMB before). I did work as an assistant at a talent agency in 1999 and Travolta called periodically to get in touch with one of the agency’s actors (who was not/did not become a household name by any stretch). Nobody said why and I didn’t ask. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/53 "2012-05-12T02:24:27Z")
Strictly speaking, given that Travolta has been in a long term relationship with a women that has obviously involved sex, he can’t be “gay” in the sense of being exclusively homosexual - he’s probably heterosexual and he _might_ be bi. This reminds me about all the hullabaloo over whether or not Jett was autistic. Bunch of effing busy-bodies prying into someone else’s private life is what it was. Newsflash, people - a celebrity is not required to discuss the medical issues of anyone in his/her family just because _you_ have An Issue. Was Jett cared for? From what I can see, yeah - round the clock care/supervision, and the family took him everywhere even when difficult or inconvenient. I think most of them were pissed off that Travolta didn’t become a crusader for autistic issues or orgs or fundraisers but you know, he wasn’t and still isn’t obligated to prostitute his celebrity status for any particular cause. If Travolta is bi and wants to be in a cult that forbids him to say so that’s HIS problem, not yours not mine and not anyone else’s. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/54 "2012-05-12T02:40:31Z")
Based on the 3 witness’ claims _John’s arse was up_ in the air and butt cheeks pulled wide open. :eek: He was beating off too. #SoNotClassy I really hope this is false. But, it is 3 different witnesses at three different day/locations. Even a Gay guy should have more class than to do that to a masseuse , male or female. > [@](#): > > Anyone know what is supposedly up with John Travolta? ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/55 "2012-05-12T02:49:49Z")
You’d think a gay man would be able to arrange for a more natural looking hairpiece when he needs one. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/56 "2012-05-12T03:00:34Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Based on the 3 witness’ claims _John’s arse was up_ in the air and butt cheeks pulled wide open. :eek: He was beating off too. #SoNotClassy So he has at the very least three hands/arms? :eek: I’m gonna need some paper towel tubes to figure out the physics of this. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/57 "2012-05-12T03:09:32Z")
😃 one hand on a butt cheek pulling open and one on his rod. \ Anyway the news report was very specific that the masseuse got a very good look at his … A-Ho. too much TMI for me. [SPOILER]On the morning of the massage Travolta had “a strange demeanor, bloodshot eyes and climbed onto the already setup massage table…Travolta removed the entire sheet from his body, and he claimed the sheets were sticky and could not tolerate the heat…Travolta further indicated that he likes a lot of “Glutes” work meaning a massage on his buttocks…While he was massaging near Travolta’s buttocks area, Travolta would open his legs and spread his butt cheeks open and had a full erection and would maneuver in a way to try to force Doe Plaintiff No. 2 to touch his anus and around his anus.” As the massage came to an end “Travolta suddenly turned on his stomach with his legs wide open with a full erection. He then tried to force Doe Plaintiff No. 2’s hand on Travolta’s scrotum. Then, Travolta started to grab, rub and caress Doe Plaintiff no. 2’s upper thighs and buttocks…Travolta still had an erection and wanted his abdominals done, but Travolta’s erection was in the way and he refused to have his penis covered by a sheet of a pillow case cover…Travolta started masturbating about 15 minutes left in the session, and Doe Plaintiff No.2, said he had to go,” the docs state.[/SPOILER] > **[Second Male Masseur Files $2M Sexual Battery Lawsuit Against John Travolta](https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/05/second-accuser-files-sexual-battery-lawsuit-against-john-travolta/)** > > By Jen Heger - Radar Assistant Managing Editor > WARNING: THIS STORY CONTAINS EXPLICIT CONTENTA second accuser -- another male masseur -- filed a $2 million ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/58 "2012-05-12T03:41:47Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Strictly speaking, given that Travolta has been in a long term relationship with a women that has obviously involved sex, he can’t be “gay” in the sense of being exclusively homosexual - he’s probably heterosexual and he _might_ be bi. Unless there’s a sex tape I’m unaware of, I’m not sure how you can draw this conclusion. It’s possible to have babies without having sex. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/59 "2012-05-12T04:04:46Z")
> [@Eliahna](#): > > Unless there’s a sex tape I’m unaware of, I’m not sure how you can draw this conclusion. It’s possible to have babies without having sex. Oh, don’t bother her with facts or knowledge; Afterall, she’s the one decries “busy-bodies” who pry into other’s private lives, yet she knows that the Travolta’s had round the clock care for their son and took him everywhere with them even when inconvenient. For someone who hates nosy people, she sure seems to know a lot about the Travolta’s private life… ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529/60 "2012-05-12T11:03:12Z")
> [@Eliahna](#): > > Unless there’s a sex tape I’m unaware of, I’m not sure how you can draw this conclusion. It’s possible to have babies without having sex. Yes, but unless you have evidence every single one of the kids was a turkey baster baby I’m going to take the Occam’s Razor approach of the man and woman involved having penis+vagina sexual intercourse to conceive. I just don’t understand why people are so resistant to the notion of bisexualism being a possibility here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-know-what-is-supposedly-up-with-john-travolta/621529.md?page=4)