# Anyone looking forward to "Clerks 2"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 13, 2006, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347 "2006-07-13T16:51:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2006, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/41 "2006-07-14T16:11:08Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> I’ve never really enjoyed Kevin Smith films. They just seem… not well put together, or something.
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> Funny bits throughout, but never enough IMO to support an entire hour and a half of movie watching.
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> Clerks II, from the previews, looks kind of dumb IMO. And [crotchety old man]isn’t Kevin Smith getting a little old to be writing dialogue like this? Isn’t it kind of sad? “You’ve never gone ass to mouth” over and over again? Really? Is that clever or interesting?[/crotchety old man]
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> Anyway, I like smart movies with clever dialogue as much as the next movie snob. I just haven’t really seen this done _well_ in Smith’s films.
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> -FrL-

Maybe I can use post #29 for you instead. 😉

Jim

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2006, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/42 "2006-07-14T16:26:04Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> Maybe I can use post #29 for you instead. 😉
> 
> Jim

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Piss away… 😃

-FrL-

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2006, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/43 "2006-07-14T17:45:09Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> I’ve never really enjoyed Kevin Smith films. They just seem… not well put together, or something.
> 
> Funny bits throughout, but never enough IMO to support an entire hour and a half of movie watching.
> 
> Clerks II, from the previews, looks kind of dumb IMO. And [crotchety old man]isn’t Kevin Smith getting a little old to be writing dialogue like this? Isn’t it kind of sad? “You’ve never gone ass to mouth” over and over again? Really? Is that clever or interesting?[/crotchety old man]
> 
> Anyway, I like smart movies with clever dialogue as much as the next movie snob. I just haven’t really seen this done _well_ in Smith’s films.

The dialog is why I like Kevin Smith movies. Like Randal commenting on the ending of _Return of the Jedi_ and the tragic deaths of all independent contractors who must have been working on the Death Star when it was destroyed. There’s a goofy insight in being able to tap into geeky obsessions and surpass them. He wins the affection of the fanboys by making fun of them in a way that only another fanboy can.

The criticisms are valid. There are many things (pacing, structure, camera-work, etc.) that Kevin Smith doesn’t do as well as other people. But there are things he does well that no one else does at all.

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**Author:** ![ddgryphon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@ddgryphon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ddgryphon)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2006, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/44 "2006-07-14T18:47:08Z")

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Put me down for tickets.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2006, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/45 "2006-07-15T00:25:37Z")

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Hey, I heard somewhere that **Happy Scrappy Hero Pup** ’s name is a Clerks reference. I don’t remember where, though. Has anyone else heard that?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2006, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/46 "2006-07-15T01:56:46Z")

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> [@fetus](#):
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> Hey, I heard somewhere that **Happy Scrappy Hero Pup** ’s name is a Clerks reference. I don’t remember where, though. Has anyone else heard that?

Are you sure? I thought it was a reference to the worst added on Cartoon character of all time. :smack:

Jim 🙂

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**Author:** ![SkeptiJess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@SkeptiJess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkeptiJess)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2006, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/47 "2006-07-16T02:43:23Z")

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> [@me](#):
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> Can’t wait. I’m probably going to have to go alone, though – my husband doesn’t ‘get’ Kevin Smith. He sat all the way through Clerks and didn’t laught once. Can you imagine?

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> I believe that’s grounds for divorce in most states.

Well, he has compensating qualities (::cough:: big penis ::cough:🙂

I just say the trailer for this a couple of minutes ago and I really, really can’t wait. _Clerks_ is my favorite Kevin Smith movie, closely followed by _Dogma_. I also have a real weakness for _Mallrats_, which I just Tivoed last week and my damned daughter erased before I got the chance to watch it.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2006, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/48 "2006-07-16T02:53:19Z")

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Boyyyy, a lot of folks here are demonstrating more faith than is merited.

A movie that hits a particular target usually does so only once. Just because “Clerks” was good does not mean “Clerks 2” will be. In fact, it’s quite likely “Clerks 2” will suck it raw and be little more than a rehash of the original.

I was watching an interview with Smith; he said words to the effect of, “`Clerks’ was a movie I made about what it was like to be in my 20s. Now I’ve made a movie about what it’s like to be in my 30s.” Umm, Kevin; during your 30s, you were a rich Hollywood director. I don’t think you actually have a lot of current experience in working in burger joints, dude.

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**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/49 "2006-07-17T13:13:40Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> A movie that hits a particular target usually does so only once. Just because “Clerks” was good does not mean “Clerks 2” will be. In fact, it’s quite likely “Clerks 2” will suck it raw and be little more than a rehash of the original.

But I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt in this case.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/50 "2006-07-17T14:11:44Z")

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> [@Jess](#):
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> Well, he has compensating qualities (::cough:: big penis ::cough:🙂

I have a big penis AND I’m a Kevin Smith fan. So you can see the two are not mutually exclusive.

[sub]Just sayin’, is all…[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/51 "2006-07-18T12:57:06Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Boyyyy, a lot of folks here are demonstrating more faith than is merited.
> 
> A movie that hits a particular target usually does so only once. Just because “Clerks” was good does not mean “Clerks 2” will be. In fact, it’s quite likely “Clerks 2” will suck it raw and be little more than a rehash of the original.

At Cannes this year **Clerks II** (which was screened out of competition) got an [8-minute standing ovation](http://silentbobspeaks.com/?m=20060527). Even if the theater was full of hard-core Smith fans, that means that hard-core Smith fans will love the film, and who really cares about anyone else?

I can’t wait!

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**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/52 "2006-07-18T14:24:01Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> At Cannes this year **Clerks II** (which was screened out of competition) got an [8-minute standing ovation](http://silentbobspeaks.com/?m=20060527). Even if the theater was full of hard-core Smith fans, that means that hard-core Smith fans will love the film, and who really cares about anyone else?

Well, looking at the box office returns for the last couple of Smith films, those are the only people who go see them anyway. So he’s pretty much the most successful niche director maybe?

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/53 "2006-07-18T23:31:16Z")

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He’s certainly the biggest hit when it comes to selling movies to Kevin Smith fans.

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**Author:** ![Seymour\_Gams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Seymour\_Gams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seymour_Gams)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/54 "2006-07-21T06:01:38Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> I have a big penis AND I’m a Kevin Smith fan.

If I ever write a personal, I am going to put that in it “Must be a Kevin Smith fan with a big penis!”

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**Author:** ![Othersider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/cab0a1/32.png) [@Othersider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Othersider)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/55 "2006-07-21T06:10:31Z")

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I’ve been told on many occasions, by many different people, that I remind them of Randal. In more ways than one. Kevin Smith is my hero. 😃

I am _definitely_ seeing this. Hopefully this weekend.

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**Author:** ![Seymour\_Gams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Seymour\_Gams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seymour_Gams)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/56 "2006-07-21T08:14:44Z")

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> [@Othersider](#):
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> I’ve been told on many occasions, by many different people, that I remind them of Randal. In more ways than one. Kevin Smith is my hero. 😃
> 
> I am _definitely_ seeing this. Hopefully this weekend.

If you act like _and_ look like Randal, I am officially stalking you starting… now.

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**Author:** ![shamrock227](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@shamrock227](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shamrock227)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/57 "2006-07-21T17:30:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Othersider]  
I’ve been told on many occasions, by many different people, that I remind them of Randal. In more ways than one. Kevin Smith is my hero. 😃  
QUOTE]

How \*you \* doin’? 😉  
😃

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**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/58 "2006-07-21T18:47:49Z")

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I saw the movie last night at a midnight show. I really enjoyed it. I don’t want to give any spoilers, but it was exactly what I expected: funny, gleefully filthy, honest and touching.

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**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/59 "2006-07-21T21:02:35Z")

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Am I the only person who enjoys Kevin Smith movies, yet would feel uncomfortable going to see them at the theater? I only know a few people with whom I would be comfortable watching them.

I will wait impatiently until this is out on DVD, and watch it at home.

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**Author:** ![shamrock227](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@shamrock227](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shamrock227)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2006, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-looking-forward-to-clerks-2/364347/60 "2006-07-21T21:11:15Z")

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> [@Eleanor of Aquitaine](#):
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> Am I the only person who enjoys Kevin Smith movies, yet would feel uncomfortable going to see them at the theater? I only know a few people with whom I would be comfortable watching them.
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> I will wait impatiently until this is out on DVD, and watch it at home.

Oh, heck, I don’t know anyone who wants to see it. I’m going by myself (hopefully tonight, if not, then tomorrow). That way you don’t end up having to babysit someone who may or may not be enjoying it - you’re seeing it with a whole theater full of people who _do_ want to see it.

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