# Anyone notice how cooperative everyone is to the US? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 3, 2003, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-notice-how-cooperative-everyone-is-to-the-us/172885 "2003-05-03T18:29:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![light\_strand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a6a055/32.png) [@light\_strand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/light_strand)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-notice-how-cooperative-everyone-is-to-the-us/172885/41 "2003-05-04T04:04:17Z")
Damn do you two even read what I write, or are your knees jerking so hard that they are blocking your vision? MLS " …caring less and less whether people in certain countries think like us or not " is so different from what I wrote here “…or they don’t care” exactly how? Conflict, what the hell are you talking about? I wrote a wacko comment on how Bush was a witch, and Canada was attacking, and you claim that I need statistics. Did you bother to read the entire post? It was a crazy analogy, clearly I wasn’t being serious, yet you latched onto it like some deranged bulldog. Read it again! Now to end the hijack. How do you verify that Bush is responsible for all of the acts listed in the OP. ---
**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-notice-how-cooperative-everyone-is-to-the-us/172885/42 "2003-05-04T04:16:34Z")
Actually, I was offering possibilities, one of which was your suggestion. ---
**Author:** ![Spite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spite)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-notice-how-cooperative-everyone-is-to-the-us/172885/43 "2003-05-04T07:23:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by light strand \* > \*\*Thanks elucidator. Fortunately although he was activated, he wasn’t deployed. He’s been lingering in CA for the last several months. He was deployed during the first Gulf war in the reign of George I, so this wasn’t terribly unexpected. But I digress for my “I hate America!” stance. America sucks! Screw the Troops! Die Die Die! > > Now Spite, exactly how was a US military ship in the port of Aden, Yemen or the Embassy in Kenya under Clinton’s control any more than a night club in Bali is under Bush’s, or a Marine Corps barracks in Lebanon under Reagan’s. > > It seems to me that when you made this claim: " I would not be cowardly enough to claim I was Canadian or hate Bush as some have proferred on these boards" you were pretty much saying that we were un-American enough to claim Canadian citizenship (how you could ferret out the truth of this statement is beyond me). > > As for my having to back up the claim of WMD, where the hell did that enter the argument? If a president sends our men off to war under a premise of WMD it better be true! The “well it all worked out OK” reasoning is bullshit. What if it hadn’t? Do you suppose the folks who got loved ones back in body bags thought it went well? > > This thread [shows](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=172230) my incredible telekinetic powers. Read it and weep. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Spite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spite)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-notice-how-cooperative-everyone-is-to-the-us/172885/44 "2003-05-04T07:24:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by light strand \* > \*\* > > Now Spite, exactly how was a US military ship in the port of Aden, Yemen or the Embassy in Kenya under Clinton’s control any more than a night club in Bali is under Bush’s, or a Marine Corps barracks in Lebanon under Reagan’s.\*\* Oh, I don’t know **light**. Maybe the fact that they are US property in hostile territory with US citizens in admin and control. POTUS is the CnC of the US army, and is solely responsible of all that goes on under his command. Meaning that no one else is, surely not said countries they may be visiting. Ask your husband who his ultimate superrior officer is. > [@](#): > > \*\* > It seems to me that when you made this claim: " I would not be cowardly enough to claim I was Canadian or hate Bush as some have proferred on these boards" you were pretty much saying that we were un-American enough to claim Canadian citizenship (how you could ferret out the truth of this statement is beyond me).\*\* ISTM I wasn’t refering to you in that post. Wouldn’t it be more prudent to _assume_ I was talking about those who said they would claim to be Canadian and say they hate Bush just to appease others? > [@](#): > > As for my having to back up the claim of WMD, where the hell did that enter the argument? If a president sends our men off to war under a premise of WMD it better be true! The “well it all worked out OK” reasoning is bullshit. What if it hadn’t? Do you suppose the folks who got loved ones back in body bags thought it went well? I never said you had to back up anything. I said you never proclaimed they had no WMD before. So to assert that it was somehow obvious and was a wrong reason, or just made up makes you pretty uninformed considering the whole world asserted they most likely did have them and even put dabilitating sanctions on them. Do you understand now? \*\* > [@](#): > > This thread [shows](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=172230) my incredible telekinetic powers. Read it and weep. \*\* Telekinetc? You have a movement when you typed that? The only thing I see you claiming is; > [@](#): > > So far I don’t see a lot of evidence that these folks want to be liberated. hmm? and; > [@](#): > > My bottom line is I don’t think this is going to be an easy war, and even more difficult aftermath. > > … > > I’m not sure I believe that liberation is even necessarily going to be outcome at all, and I think we are actually making ourselves far less secure by waging this war. The war was easier than most expected. Even those that supported the war from the beginning like myself.Liberation is demonstrable, at least an increased liberation. Hey they have the right to badmouth those you disagree with just like you and I do. The aftermath and our future security has not supported your statements so far. So I do not see where you moved anything, or better yet been prophetic in your assertion of WMD? I didn’t see you disagree with anyone there except for a cause of war. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2003, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-notice-how-cooperative-everyone-is-to-the-us/172885/45 "2003-05-04T07:54:31Z")
Of course everyone is suddenly cooperative with the United States. I mean, if I’m riding on the bus and the unkempt guy across the aisle starts drooling on himself and mutters death threats to the invisible pink aliens on his shoulders, I smile, nod politely, agree with everything he say, and generally _try not to give the lunatic any reason to get any crazier._ Do not mistake “cooperation” with “respect.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-notice-how-cooperative-everyone-is-to-the-us/172885.md?page=2)