# Anyone playing with their Wii? (pun intended) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 20, 2006, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131 "2006-11-20T10:20:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/41 "2006-11-23T04:44:11Z")
[QUOTE=Carnick] You can also use the remote (I refuse to call it a Wiimote) to aim guns and stuff. [/QUOTE] Don’t worry, nobody is going to make you. Nintendo dropped the Wiimote name and it’s just called the [Wii Remote](http://wii.nintendo.com/controller.jsp) now. [QUOTE=Carnick] They definitely needed to hold off another year to develop some better software, but Nintendo does this every time they release something new. [/QUOTE] May I draw your attention to the original [F-Zero](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-Zero)? Or Super Mario World? Or Super Mario 64? Or Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (admittedly glitchy, but a great game nonetheless)? The GameCube’s launch titles, I will admit, sucked. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/42 "2006-11-23T05:46:40Z")
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] Don’t worry, nobody is going to make you. Nintendo dropped the Wiimote name and it’s just called the [Wii Remote](http://wii.nintendo.com/controller.jsp) now. [/QUOTE] Nintendo never called it the Wiimote. That was all the fanboys doing. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/43 "2006-11-23T05:50:47Z")
[QUOTE=Carnick] And the whole world being completely backwards. I’ve heard the sun actually sets on the wrong side in Wii’s Hyrule, but I’ve yet to actually see the sun in my game. [/QUOTE] How can it be “wrong” in a mystical world? ---
**Author:** ![Carnick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carnick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carnick)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/44 "2006-11-23T10:34:51Z")
[QUOTE=Red Barchetta] How can it be “wrong” in a mystical world? [/QUOTE] In comparison to how it originally was supposed to be, not that it matters much anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Carnick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carnick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carnick)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/45 "2006-11-23T10:39:45Z")
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] May I draw your attention to the original [F-Zero](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-Zero)? Or Super Mario World? Or Super Mario 64? Or Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (admittedly glitchy, but a great game nonetheless)? The GameCube’s launch titles, I will admit, sucked. [/QUOTE] Nintendo releases quality launch titles, but not enough of them. SNES had Mario World and F-Zero. N64 had Mario 64 and Shadows of the Empire, then like nothing for a year. GameCube had… Luigi’s Mansion? And the Wii has Zelda, and that’s pretty much it. Good games, but not enough to call it a launch. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/46 "2006-11-23T17:22:46Z")
[QUOTE=Carnick] Good games, but not enough to call it a launch. [/QUOTE] Relarive to what exactly? The PS2 and PS3 are widely acknowledge as having some of the worst launch games of any platform. Same for the Xbox 360. And in this case, the Wii pretty much match the PS3 in the amount of pure games. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/47 "2006-11-23T18:00:36Z")
[QUOTE=Carnick] Nintendo releases quality launch titles, but not enough of them. SNES had Mario World and F-Zero. N64 had Mario 64 and Shadows of the Empire, then like nothing for a year. GameCube had… Luigi’s Mansion? And the Wii has Zelda, and that’s pretty much it. Good games, but not enough to call it a launch. [/QUOTE] Was Mario Sunshine a launch title? I can’t remember. All I do remember is the day Mario Sunshine came out is the day I bought a Gamecube to play it. ---
**Author:** ![Jayn\_Newell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Jayn\_Newell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayn_Newell)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/48 "2006-11-23T18:17:29Z")
[QUOTE=malkavia] -Jesus :dubious: [/QUOTE] Wonder if that was from my friend’s Wii? He made a Jesus Mii, although we also all made seperate Mii’s Sunday night. He brought over Zelda and the Wii sports with him. I only got to try tennis and bowling, but I was rather happy with the latter, as, aside from not having to deal with a full sized ball (making it easier to throw straight) it was almost exactly like real bowling. A couple of my friends even had trouble throwing straight because they were twisting their wrists, something I used to do a lot when I first started bowling. No other bowling game yet could have possibly added that element to it. We also managed to lob the ball and even throw it backwards, something else I’ve never seen before. Zelda looked good from what I saw of it. Even if I got a Wii I doubt I’d pick it up though–me and Zelda games don’t get along. But the new controller is interesting, and it seems fairly intuitive, which is more than I can say for the Gamecube. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/49 "2006-11-23T20:30:21Z")
Newspaper criticizes the Wii on the basis the aim is vague. Thet say hitting targets is difficult. Perhaps you learn to compensate after a while. Is it true? ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/50 "2006-11-23T21:23:12Z")
I haven’t had any problems with aiming, but I’ve only done it in Zelda and on the menus. Other games might be different. Also, as I understand things, the remote doesn’t work like a light gun, but more like a mouse. The aim on the screen will not necessarily be exactly where you are physically pointing the remote. People might find that confusing I guess. Does anyone know how the Mii Parade works? I checked in there today but there was nobody there. Does it just randomly populate itself with other people’s Miis, or do you need to specifically invite friends? ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/51 "2006-11-24T00:50:25Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] Was Mario Sunshine a launch title? I can’t remember. [/QUOTE] According to our friend Wikipedia, _Super Mario Sunshine_ was released in August 2002, nine months after the Gamecube’s American launch. ---
**Author:** ![metonymic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@metonymic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/metonymic)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/52 "2006-11-24T01:12:39Z")
[QUOTE=borschevsky] Does anyone know how the Mii Parade works? I checked in there today but there was nobody there. Does it just randomly populate itself with other people’s Miis, or do you need to specifically invite friends? [/QUOTE] If you have friends in your address book, and they create Miis and set them to Mingle, and your Travel settings (in the Mii Parade area (and possibly Mii plaza)) are set to accept/send visitors, then Miis from friends’ consoles will randomly arrive in the Mii Parade area. Then you can send them to Mii plaza to hang out with your Miis. As far as I know, unfortunately, you can’t recieve Miis from anyone but friends in your address book… Speaking of Miis, I’m amazed that it’s so fun to make them! I was skeptical about the Mii concept when I heard about it in the summer, but actually I kind of like the idea (and especially their particpation in certain games). Generally I’m really happy with my Wii, even if the controller does feel gimmicky. I can’t wait for Wario Ware – I really wish that had been available on launch, 'cause I feel like it’s an even better tech demo than Wii Sports! Has anyone tried Trauma Center? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/53 "2006-11-24T03:24:03Z")
[QUOTE=metonymic] Has anyone tried Trauma Center? [/QUOTE] I got it and I’d give it a hesitant recommendation. The use of the Wiimote is nice and it’s challenging to play. It plays like a set minigames where you follow the instructions given to operate. The downside is that the limited cut scenes between operations, lack of voice over for a lot of things, and the fact that each operation is a set of fairly static screens means that it kind of feels like they upconverted the DS game. So, it’s fun and rather distinctive to play, but it’s not flashy and there’s other games on the Wii (like Rayman) which offer a similar minigame set. At $30 I’d say it was a decent purchase, at $50 I think it’s overpriced for the production values. ---
**Author:** ![metonymic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@metonymic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/metonymic)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/54 "2006-11-24T04:45:30Z")
[QUOTE=bouv] Dude, if you haven’t already in Zelda, attack the chickens. I know what you’re thinking…and you’re wrong. What happens in previous Zeldas is NOT what happens in this one. It’s worth it to find out what happens. [/QUOTE] Ahh! I just tried it – you’re right, totally unexpected. And great! [QUOTE=Just Some Guy] I got it and I’d give it a hesitant recommendation. The use of the Wiimote is nice and it’s challenging to play. It plays like a set minigames where you follow the instructions given to operate. The downside is that the limited cut scenes between operations, lack of voice over for a lot of things, and the fact that each operation is a set of fairly static screens means that it kind of feels like they upconverted the DS game. So, it’s fun and rather distinctive to play, but it’s not flashy and there’s other games on the Wii (like Rayman) which offer a similar minigame set. At $30 I’d say it was a decent purchase, at $50 I think it’s overpriced for the production values. [/QUOTE] Hmm, that’s disappointing. I was hoping it would improve the DS version significantly. Well hopefully one of the two people I know with Wiis will buy it and I can just try theirs! 😉 And how is Rayman? It looked interesting, but I haven’t heard great things about it. Is it worth purchasing? ---
**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2006, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/55 "2006-11-25T05:20:36Z")
I have both Rayman and Zelda. Rayman’s fun, but I haven’t been playing it much since I’ve been playing so much Zelda. It would probably be better to rent than buy. It’s all minigames. Zelda is awesome. I just got the Master Sword and I can’t wait to see where the story goes next. I actually saw a review that complained about the lack of voice acting, and those people are so wrong. I think Zelda works better without it. Anyway, I like the characters so far, especially Midna. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2006, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/56 "2006-11-25T06:28:22Z")
My stepbrother’s cousin brought over a Wii at Thanksgiving and I played both Zelda and Red Steel. I was impressed with neither. The graphics seemed to not be any better than the Gamecube. The gameplay of Red Steel sucked, the swordfighting was poorly executed, the gun aiming is completely non-intuitive with the stupid “Wiimote.” I know I had slagged off on the Wii, calling it Dreamcast II, in a thread long ago, and was told to reserve judgment until I had actually played it. Well, I played it, and it’s exactly as I imagined it - mediocre graphics and novel, but poorly executed, controls. Couple that with the kiddie factor (slash someone in the face with a katana in Red Steel and they fall backwards, unwounded and sterile,) and the Wii holds nothing of interest for me. The PS3 may be more expensive and this first generation might be buggy, but this is the system I’ll be getting. Metal Gear Solid 4! Resident Evil 5! Devil May Cry 2! ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2006, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/57 "2006-11-25T07:08:31Z")
[QUOTE=Argent Towers] the gun aiming is completely non-intuitive with the stupid "Wiimote."p/QUOTE] Huh? Point the remote where you want to shoot. How could it be any more intuitive than that? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2006, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/58 "2006-11-25T07:22:46Z")
Here’s how it works for me: A mouse, my preferred method of aiming in games, is supported by a flat surface (desk.) You don’t need to hold it up, you just need to cover it with your hand and make slight motions to move it. So there’s going to be very little shakiness in the aiming. A controller (thumb joystick) is better for third-person control (I’ve never enjoyed console shooters because I prefer a mouse) - you don’t need to be as precise moving a character in the third person. Once you have to aim a weapon in first-person, the thumb is less maneuverable than using your whole hand and wrist, at least for me. But the thumb joystick is still integrated into the controller, and braced by the surfaces around it and so while it’s clumsier than a mouse, it’s still more stable than the point-at-the-screen method. The Wii-mote, and light guns (which I also don’t like) are too twitchy for my tastes, because you have to physically hold up the controller and the slightest movement of the arm and hand can throw it all off - and it’s easier to make these slight movements when you’re holding the object in midair, instead of having it supported by a desk. It’s just too physically involved for me. I want to be able to just hold the controller right in my lap and not move it around at all. Maybe I’m lazy, but when I play video games I want to be lazy. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2006, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/59 "2006-11-25T08:26:40Z")
I’m not sure how the settings were on the Wii you played on, but Red Steel has a high and low sensativity setting. The default is high, IIRC. Everyone in my house changed it to low because it’s easier and less responsive to the natural shaking that occurs in one’s hand and so forth. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2006, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131/60 "2006-11-25T08:48:53Z")
[QUOTE=Argent Towers] I know I had slagged off on the Wii, calling it Dreamcast II, in a thread long ago, and was told to reserve judgment until I had actually played it. Well, I played it, and it’s exactly as I imagined it - mediocre graphics and novel, but poorly executed, controls. [/QUOTE] And you base this on two games? Color me impressed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-playing-with-their-wii-pun-intended/381131.md?page=4)