# Anyone read Episode III novel? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 20, 2005, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-read-episode-iii-novel/300198 "2005-04-20T06:21:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-read-episode-iii-novel/300198/1 "2005-04-20T06:21:31Z")
I’m not too sure about this movie… from reading the graphic novel: . . . . . . . . . . Anakin turns into Darth Vader because he wants to make Padme immortal. He has a dream that she dies. That’s all. Basically, Anakin kills Samuel L Jackson to start his path to the dark side. He does this not because he wants power, or is jealous, or has an ego trip, or mistrusts the Jedi… he wants to keep Sidious/Palpatine alive so he can learn how to keep Padme from dying. The big bad guy Grevious does not fight anyone besides Obi-Wan. I guess we’re supposed to think he’s a great fighter, even though he kills no Jedis. Anakin hardly kills any Jedis, except the young ones and Mace. Most of the jedi-killing is done by the Clone Troopers who get new orders (not being led by Vader, though). His big massacre scene is the non-Jedi Seperatist leaders (most are unarmed). Armored Darth Vader is only around for a few pages/minutes at the end of the movie. Very, very few lines. No action scenes or lightsaber wielding. Padme dies while Leia and Luke are being born. Don’t know how Leia could remember her in ROTJ. And this is the big, thrilling conclusion? ---
**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-read-episode-iii-novel/300198/2 "2005-04-20T06:23:07Z")
:eek: **OH NO!!** :eek: Can a mod put the correct spoiler tag? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stark_Raven_Mad)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-read-episode-iii-novel/300198/3 "2005-04-20T07:24:17Z")
TOO LATE! :mad: Nah, I read the graphic novel too. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-read-episode-iii-novel/300198/4 "2005-04-20T11:15:29Z")
That wooden pretty-boy kills Samuel L. Jackson? _The_ Samuel L. Jackson?Yeah, right. Don’t tell me the ending - we dissolve back to a young Jake Lloyd in Mos Eisley rubbing his eyes and saying “Mom, I just had the _strangest_ dream.” ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-read-episode-iii-novel/300198/5 "2005-04-20T13:37:16Z")
Why, why _why_ did I click? _ **WHY???** _ (And don’t feel bad, if it had been in the spoiler box, I _still_ would have read it, because I have no willpower. 🙂 ) ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-read-episode-iii-novel/300198/6 "2005-04-20T16:08:11Z")
Hubzilla: > [@](#): > > Padme dies while Leia and Luke are being born. Don’t know how Leia could remember her in ROTJ. She probably never remembered her real mother, but merely always assumed the wife of Bail Organa was her mother, and that’s what she mistakenly told Luke. OK, it detracts a bit from the drama of that scene in ROTJ, but I see no reason to think that she knew that the woman who she remembered dying when she was young was in fact her birth mother. ---
**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-read-episode-iii-novel/300198/7 "2005-04-22T04:49:18Z")
One explanation I’ve seen is it shows Anakin’s extreme love for Padme. Hmmm, why didn’t I see that in Attack of the Clones? ---
**Author:** ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-read-episode-iii-novel/300198/8 "2005-04-22T05:51:45Z")
> [@HubZilla](#): > > One explanation I’ve seen is it shows Anakin’s extreme love for Padme. Hmmm, why didn’t I see that in Attack of the Clones? No one ever said it was a _healthy_ love. It’s more like Anakin is extremely obsessed with and possessive of her. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-read-episode-iii-novel/300198/9 "2005-05-13T18:42:01Z")
> [@cmkeller](#): > > Hubzilla: > > She probably never remembered her real mother, but merely always assumed the wife of Bail Organa was her mother, and that’s what she mistakenly told Luke. OK, it detracts a bit from the drama of that scene in ROTJ, but I see no reason to think that she knew that the woman who she remembered dying when she was young was in fact her birth mother. Or maybe… Being attuned to the Force herself, Leia somehow remembered her mother Padme from her nine months or so in utero, or from just the few minutes they had together immediately after Leia’s birth…? ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-read-episode-iii-novel/300198/10 "2005-05-13T18:49:32Z")
Something has just occurred to me, something that’s bugged me since the early 80’s that I’m really hoping we’ll get an answer to. Who’s older, Luke or Leia? I have no idea why it irks me so. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2005, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-read-episode-iii-novel/300198/11 "2005-05-14T00:17:58Z")
the book does answer that one. bought and read the book. i was amused by some of the turns of phrase. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2005, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-read-episode-iii-novel/300198/12 "2005-05-14T01:24:28Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > Something has just occurred to me, something that’s bugged me since the early 80’s that I’m really hoping we’ll get an answer to. > > Who’s older, Luke or Leia? I have no idea why it irks me so. From the movie: Luke is older ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2005, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-read-episode-iii-novel/300198/13 "2005-05-14T01:38:55Z")
I’ve never really found that the graphic novel adaptation of a movie really ever did it any justice. Take a look, for example, at the two for the two X-Men movies. If I’d based my opinion of the movies on those, I would never have gone to see 'em.