# Anyone successfully use a logical argument to convince your partner into having sex? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [December 29, 2011, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696 "2011-12-29T03:37:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![IMfez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f07891/32.png) [@IMfez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IMfez)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/1 "2011-12-29T03:37:40Z")
I know this is generally a bad idea, although I’ve made the mistake a few times with girls (unsuccessful each time). There are a lot of left-brain types here so surely it has worked for someone at some point. What did you say? Did you try to appeal to her sense of commitment, duty, sympathy, etc? ---
**Author:** ![Critical\_Mass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@Critical\_Mass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical_Mass)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/2 "2011-12-29T03:42:35Z")
I don’t think this is going to be a thread of epic proportions. Although I will be paying attention just in case. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/3 "2011-12-29T08:25:34Z")
I imagine women who have trouble conceiving have been able to convince their male partners that now is the best time to have sex because they’re fertile. I’ve (female) also been convinced by a male partner that now is the best time to have sex because their roommate will be gone for the next hour. I don’t think these arguments would tend to work well on someone in a new relationship, though. Especially not if the convincee is a virgin. But in an established relationship, sure. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/4 "2011-12-29T09:38:23Z")
> [@rachelellogram](#): > > Especially not if the convincee is a virgin. “Look, do you want to be sacrificed to that volcano?!” ---
**Author:** ![AqualungBats5th](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@AqualungBats5th](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AqualungBats5th)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/5 "2011-12-29T09:52:54Z")
> [@IMfez](#): > > Did you try to appeal to her sense of commitment, duty, sympathy, etc? Gross. Why would I want to have sex with someone who’s only doing it out of duty or sympathy? I’ve never been so desperate in my life where that would be preferable to jerking off. Aside from the example of fertility consideration and maybe a few other things I’m not thinking of, it’s actually pretty skeevy to badger your partner into sex. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/6 "2011-12-29T10:18:44Z")
Probably the odd male ferret has been successful. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/7 "2011-12-29T10:40:57Z")
“I’m leaving for a month tomorrow morning. We really ought to have sex tonight.” ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/8 "2011-12-29T12:30:28Z")
I don’t have a cold opening one, but once, after some heavy making out, things went from the couch to the bedroom with “would you like to have an orgasm with me tonight? Because I’m pretty sure we’re each going to have one later anyway even if I leave right now.” ---
**Author:** ![IMfez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f07891/32.png) [@IMfez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IMfez)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/9 "2011-12-29T12:52:17Z")
> [@AqualungBats5th](#): > > Gross. Why would I want to have sex with someone who’s only doing it out of duty or sympathy? I’ve never been so desperate in my life where that would be preferable to jerking off. > > Aside from the example of fertility consideration and maybe a few other things I’m not thinking of, it’s actually pretty skeevy to badger your partner into sex. Just sayin’. Don’t take this thread too seriously, I just thought it would make for some amusing discussion 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/10 "2011-12-29T13:03:53Z")
> [@IMfez](#): > > Don’t take this thread too seriously, I just thought it would make for some amusing discussion 🙂 (until the guys from the Seduction Community brick it up with walls of text) ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/11 "2011-12-29T13:32:47Z")
For the purpose of conception it was used on me. It was not fun however, it just took all the magic out of what sex was suppose to be. Now I was all for having the child, but trying to calculate the best time of month and day and _hour_ using fertility charts and the like, no, just no. ---
**Author:** ![Heart\_of\_Dorkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4bbf92/32.png) [@Heart\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heart_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/12 "2011-12-29T13:53:25Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > I don’t have a cold opening one, but once, after some heavy making out, things went from the couch to the bedroom with “would you like to have an orgasm with me tonight? Because I’m pretty sure we’re each going to have one later anyway even if I leave right now.” ::clap clap clap:: What really puts it over the top is that you explicitly state that orgasms are the goal, rather than just sex, where an orgasm is not a given for many women. I’ve occasionally said no to sex when I’m not in the mood, but I’m _always_ in the mood for an orgasm. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/13 "2011-12-29T13:58:54Z")
> [@IMfez](#): > > I know this is generally a bad idea, although I’ve made the mistake a few times with girls (unsuccessful each time). > > There are a lot of left-brain types here so surely it has worked for someone at some point. What did you say? Did you try to appeal to her sense of commitment, duty, sympathy, etc? The only one that worked for me, and I swear I was joking when I said it, was “You want that baby, right? And you’re ovulating now, correct?” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/14 "2011-12-29T14:01:25Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > “I’m leaving for a month tomorrow morning. We really ought to have sex tonight.” Yeah, that one too… ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/15 "2011-12-29T14:14:43Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > “I’m leaving for a month tomorrow morning. We really ought to have sex tonight.” Pretty much the only one that works. I just thought of another one. Sometimes neither of us can sleep, and we figure we’ll sleep better after an orgasm. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/16 "2011-12-29T14:21:49Z")
Neither of us needs any convincing. ---
**Author:** ![Theophane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@Theophane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theophane)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/17 "2011-12-29T14:24:26Z")
> [@](#): > > Anyone successfully use a logical argument to convince your partner into having sex? If after the fact your partner figures out that you have essentially talked your way into having sex with them, you will regret it. People don’t take kindly to being manipulated in that way, “logic” be damned. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/18 "2011-12-29T14:39:11Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > “I’m leaving for a month tomorrow morning. We really ought to have sex tonight.” Yeah like that. Not convincing her to have sex, convincing her to have sex _now_. ---
**Author:** ![bcr1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@bcr1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bcr1)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2011, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/19 "2011-12-30T05:10:53Z")
Yes, quite often. It always works. Except one time, I tried using emotions instead, that’s not a good idea. I’m not good with that, logic works best. ---
**Author:** ![Theophane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@Theophane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theophane)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2011, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696/20 "2011-12-30T05:15:52Z")
> [@bcr1](#): > > Yes, quite often. It always works. Except one time, I tried using emotions instead, that’s not a good idea. I’m not good with that, logic works best. Emotional intelligence trumps logic when you’re dealing with the fair sex, especially when you’re trying to get them into bed. In other words, “logic” won’t help you if you are emotionally immature. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-successfully-use-a-logical-argument-to-convince-your-partner-into-having-sex/607696.md?page=2)