# Anyone think OJ is not a killer?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 25, 2007, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453 "2007-09-25T18:17:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/21 "2007-09-25T19:21:02Z")

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[QUOTE=ITR champion]  
Not guilty.

Secondly, it makes no sense that a man with money, popularity, celebrity, and generally everything he could want would chance throwing it all away on an extremely risky murder that brought no tangible benefit to himself.  
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Haven’t you ever heard of a murder committed for revenge?

OJ really showed that druggie, drunken, white slut of a bitch, didn’t he?

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/22 "2007-09-25T19:30:48Z")

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White female, 62 – guilty.

I think he got off in the criminal trial because the jury was confused about “reasonable” doubt. That damn glove. And a bungled prosecution.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/23 "2007-09-25T19:32:04Z")

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White male, 32. Guilty as hell.

[QUOTE=ITR champion]  
My reasons for this belief are twofold. Firstly, twelve people who know a great deal more about the case than I ever will all agreed that he was not guilty, and all seemed quite sure about their opinions.  
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I believe that most of the jurors have said they regretted their decision to acquit, mostly based on things they learned after the trial that were not admitted as evidence.

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> Secondly, it makes no sense that a man with money, popularity, celebrity, and generally everything he could want would chance throwing it all away on an extremely risky murder that brought no tangible benefit to himself.

It doesn’t make sense for someone who has _no_ money, popularity, or celebrity to commit a risky murder that brings no tangible benefit to himself, either. Money isn’t a talisman against crazy.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/24 "2007-09-25T19:32:39Z")

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South Asian female, 23, guilty.

It came at the wrong time (post Rodney King), plus bad prosecution/good defense.

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**Author:** ![Obligate\_Carnivore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Obligate\_Carnivore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Obligate_Carnivore)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/25 "2007-09-25T19:34:16Z")

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29 white female

[QUOTE=ITR champion]  
Not guilty.

White male.

My reasons for this belief are twofold. Firstly, twelve people who know a great deal more about the case than I ever will all agreed that he was not guilty, and all seemed quite sure about their opinions.  
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Ok, my memory’s a little rusty since this was so long ago and I was in high school. But…didn’t they basically air every minute of the trial? I remember the issue was that it was such a media circus with the entire trial open to the press/cameras. If I remember correctly, they could have given the thing it’s own TV Station and it would have never been lacking material.

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**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/26 "2007-09-25T19:34:39Z")

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White, female, 46. Guilty.

And I wanted to smack the prosecution upside their collective heads for that one.

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**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/27 "2007-09-25T19:35:22Z")

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[QUOTE=missbunny]  
He’s guilty as all hell.  
I’m stunned that anyone could think he’s not guilty.  
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White male, 48. I’m with **missbunny**. And I’m proud to say it!

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**Author:** ![Cattitude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@Cattitude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cattitude)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/28 "2007-09-25T19:37:00Z")

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White female 39–Guilty

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/29 "2007-09-25T19:42:23Z")

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[QUOTE=ITR champion]

My reasons for this belief are twofold. Firstly, twelve people who know a great deal more about the case than I ever will all agreed that he was not guilty, and all seemed quite sure about their opinions.  
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Well, they agreed that they couldn’t find him guilty based on the evidence that they had, which is not the same as ‘innocent’. They could still think he had done it but not be sure that the prosecution had proven that beyond a reasonable doubt.

Female. White. 39. Guilty.

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**Author:** ![Slypork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Slypork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slypork)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/30 "2007-09-25T19:49:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Obligate Carnivore]  
29 white female

Ok, my memory’s a little rusty since this was so long ago and I was in high school. But…didn’t they basically air every minute of the trial? I remember the issue was that it was such a media circus with the entire trial open to the press/cameras. If I remember correctly, they could have given the thing it’s own TV Station and it would have never been lacking material.  
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Yup. This is the trial that made CourtTV a household name. Every day they showed the proceedings and every night was a recap. The networks put their talking heads on to blather about what was right and what was wrong with both sides of the case. Talk radio was practically all OJ all the time.

The reason I am asking this is that a friend of mine said that he doesn’t think anyone today believes OJ is innocent. I remember a survey from a couple years ago stated that overall about 75% of people thought he was guilty but that only a quarter of blacks thought he was guilty. I wanted to see what the intelligent people of this board thought. I realize it is not a scientific poll but I figure it would be food for thought.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/31 "2007-09-25T19:51:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
I believe that most of the jurors have said they regretted their decision to acquit, mostly based on things they learned after the trial that were not admitted as evidence.  
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Yep. The public actually knew _more_ about the crime than the jurors (well, unless they were learning about it from the Weekly World News).

And jealousy’s a bitch. What positive, tangible benefits could killing an ex-wife or girlfriend ever bring any man? Yet it happens all the time. As for having money, success, popularity, etc., sometimes those get trotted out in rape cases (‘Why would he need to rape anyone? He’s rich and handsome!’). People are crazy.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/32 "2007-09-25T19:51:56Z")

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[QUOTE=erie774]  
I’m really hoping to hear from non-whites (I hate the word “minorities” but non-whites sounds stupid, too). Anybody?

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I wasn’t going to answer, but since you are specifically asking for minorities:

Female.  
31.  
E. Indian.

And yes, he was guilty. The jury didn’t find him innocent, they found him not guilty, which isn’t the same thing. The prosecution didn’t present their evidence well enough IMO to remove all doubt.

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/33 "2007-09-25T19:59:04Z")

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WM, 34, guilty but framed. I think he did it, but the cops, just in case they couldn’t make the case, ALSO planted evidence.

Joe

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**Author:** ![Slypork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Slypork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slypork)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/34 "2007-09-25T20:02:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Anaamika]  
I wasn’t going to answer, but since you are specifically asking for minorities:

Female.  
31.  
E. Indian.

And yes, he was guilty. The jury didn’t find him innocent, they found him not guilty, which isn’t the same thing. The prosecution didn’t present their evidence well enough IMO to remove all doubt.  
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Thanks. I was hoping for everyone to answer but it’s really important to see how it breaks down along racial lines.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/35 "2007-09-25T20:19:16Z")

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White male, 53, guilty. Not me, him.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Il\_Palazzo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Lord\_Il\_Palazzo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Il_Palazzo)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/36 "2007-09-25T20:20:15Z")

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21 year old white male. Guilty.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/37 "2007-09-25T20:25:17Z")

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White female, 38, six kinds o’guilty

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/38 "2007-09-25T20:31:34Z")

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White, female, 51

I think he’s guilty. However, I feel worse about the innocent people who are doing life (or death) than I do about OJ walking free. It’s a flawed system, but if I had to pick a piece to fix, I’d much rather see the true innocents get on with their lives.

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**Author:** ![Burrido](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Burrido](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Burrido)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/39 "2007-09-25T20:34:16Z")

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27 Asian Male. I think the jury rendered the correct verdict, however I personally feel he is guilty.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-think-oj-is-not-a-killer/420453/40 "2007-09-25T20:41:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Anaamika]  
And yes, he was guilty. The jury didn’t find him innocent, they found him not guilty, which isn’t the same thing. The prosecution didn’t present their evidence well enough IMO to remove all doubt.  
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No prosecution can remove **all** doubt. If a clutch of nuns witnessed the crime in broad daylight and caught it on tape, defense lawyers could say the sun was in their eyes and the tape could have been tampered with.

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