# Anyone up for a Diplomacy game? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 15, 2008, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664 "2008-09-15T04:38:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/141 "2008-10-28T18:11:23Z")
So much for the apparent French-Italy alliance; France obviously thinks he is strong enough that he can take whatever centers he likes, diplomacy be damned (he may be right-not criticizing said logic necessarily). A huge war between France and Germany seems to be brewing; the control of the (formerly) British Isles in the balance. Too bad Germany didn’t get Edinburgh. Austria gets a reprieve; not only did Germany and Russia not cooperate in taking an unsupported Trieste, but he will get one net build. Russia was oddly timid, going for the sure build from Venice vs. a move into an undefended Budapest. Poor Turkey-goes CD and loses a center. All is not lost tho, with Russia still on good terms and Austria having to turn and face a charging France; some good diplomacy may get him back into the game, with a chance to build some badly needed fleets. Oddly this may be a good thing for the Sultan in the long run. Am I mistaken or do the two retreats this fall have no liberties at all, and thus are forced disbands? If so why is there a fall retreats phase? ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/142 "2008-10-28T19:21:25Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > Can I get a quick recap? can’t view the game from work. [Here’s a map](http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/bedgyro/Fall1904.jpg). ENGLAND Wales HOLD -\> resolved FRANCE Western Mediterranean MOVE Tunis -\> resolved Liverpool MOVE Edinburgh -\> Bounced Paris MOVE Picardy -\> resolved Marseilles MOVE Burgundy -\> resolved Piedmont MOVE Tyrolia -\> Bounced English Channel MOVE London -\> Bounced ITALY Apulia SUPPORT Venice to hold -\> Support cut by f adr - app Ionian Sea MOVE Naples -\> resolved Venice HOLD -\> Retreat GERMANY Denmark HOLD -\> resolved Belgium HOLD -\> resolved Tyrolia MOVE Trieste -\> Bounced Yorkshire MOVE London -\> Bounced North Sea CONVOY Holland to Edinburgh -\> resolved Holland MOVE Edinburgh -\> Bounced Kiel MOVE Munich -\> resolved AUSTRIA Tuscany MOVE Venice -\> resolved Greece SUPPORT Serbia to Bulgaria -\> resolved Rome SUPPORT Tuscany to Venice -\> resolved Trieste SUPPORT Tuscany to Venice -\> Support cut by a trl - tri Adriatic Sea MOVE Apulia -\> Bounced Serbia MOVE Bulgaria -\> resolved TURKEY Civil Disorder, all units HOLD RUSSIA Vienna HOLD -\> resolved Sevastopol SUPPORT Rumania to hold -\> resolved Moscow MOVE Ukraine -\> resolved Sweden HOLD -\> resolved Norway MOVE Skagerrack -\> resolved Galicia SUPPORT Vienna to hold -\> resolved ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/143 "2008-10-28T19:33:13Z")
Awesome. Thanks 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/144 "2008-10-28T19:48:13Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Am I mistaken or do the two retreats this fall have no liberties at all, and thus are forced disbands? If so why is there a fall retreats phase? You’re right, and reading the PlayDiplomacy forums, it appears to be a feature on the wish-list for the programmers to get to when they have the time and/or inclination - for the time being, we wait… Grim ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/145 "2008-10-28T21:06:35Z")
Hmm. Doing some searching there reveals a “finalize” order which, if everybody who can perform orders sends in the finalize command, allows the turn to be processed immediately. Or perhaps that is only for certain games or something? ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/146 "2008-11-04T15:28:14Z")
When is spring '05 due to process? It’s been more than 3 days (at least) since the orders of the previous phase went through, hasn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/147 "2008-11-04T16:12:59Z")
Spring 1905 is in now. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/148 "2008-11-04T16:23:21Z")
How did it go? Did France, Russia, or Austria screw me? All three? ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/149 "2008-11-04T18:11:35Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > How did it go? Did France, Russia, or Austria screw me? All three? Believe it or not, the only one to screw you was Turkey. ---
**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/150 "2008-11-05T07:00:17Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > How did it go? Did France, Russia, or Austria screw me? All three? Screw you? On the contrary - taking what I have rightfully taken from Austria counts as a reverse double screwing!! Grim ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/151 "2008-11-09T17:52:28Z")
Too bad Turkey went AWOL-even with every unit holding it’s going to be awhile before anyone is going to take his home centers. I’ll not add much else other than we now have a solid 2 vs. 2 game going now, where unless someone betrays someone else the game will hinge on who has the best tactics (c.f. Russia and his losing Norway needlessly). ---
**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/152 "2008-11-10T10:40:58Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > (c.f. Russia and his losing Norway needlessly). Hindsight is a wonderful thing… ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/153 "2008-11-10T23:56:05Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > …unless someone betrays someone else the game will hinge on who has the best tactics (c.f. Russia and his losing Norway needlessly). I’ll gladly betray someone for the low low price of three Bartlett pears, a two pound bag of red potatoes, and a Monster energy drink. Either that or [this](http://shop.lego.com/product/?p=10030&LangId=2057&ShipTo=US) delivered to my door. I gotta say that if Turkey wants to jump back in here, he could be a real disruptor. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/154 "2008-11-13T05:45:47Z")
Does anyone besides **John DiFool** have any perspective on the game? Once this is over\*, I promise to kibitz endlessly about the following Doper Diplomacy game. I have an eye for Dip tactics (if I may say so myself), and I will relish the chance to be a non-combatant disruptor to future games. Although, I must admit the “Chaos” variant is an intriguing game I’d be happy to adjudicate. \*: If all goes well, I will have the weight of being a winner on my resume. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/155 "2008-11-13T15:32:50Z")
Chaos, 34 players 34 centers-yeah I played that once (as Serbia). Got wiped out in the first year. Actually I was looking at [1900](http://www.diplom.org/Online/variants1.html#numbers) (which is not on this server)-the designers bent over backwards to make it balanced and fun (and rectified the absence of the entire North African coastline). ---
**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/156 "2008-11-13T17:38:06Z")
Has no-one heard anything from Turkey? The Opium must be stronger than usual… ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/157 "2008-11-16T21:37:24Z")
Spring 1906 moves are in. Germany is not interested in condensing his forces, that’s clear. I noticed a draw offer from Turkey, that’s the only thing I’ve heard from him. ---
**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/158 "2008-11-19T12:00:31Z")
Just noticed that the player listed as Turkey is called **General2410** rather than our own **Omi no Kami** who must have surrendered… Explains the draw offer in part. Grim ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/159 "2008-11-21T15:05:04Z")
Crap. I think I forgot to put in moves again, and the day ends shortly doesn’t it. Anyone able to enter them for me if the day hasn’t ended yet? I can’t access the site from work. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-a-diplomacy-game/463664/160 "2008-11-21T15:48:19Z")
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