# Anyone up for another Diplomacy Game? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 17, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097 "2009-06-17T18:10:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/1 "2009-06-17T18:10:49Z")
[This thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=519967) kind of has me jonesing for one. I don’t know about what everybody would think of completely open press (no PMs/emails all communication is done here on the board-Honor Rule in strict effect). If we got more than seven we could go with an alternate map, like Modern. Any takers? Or did the last game leave a bad taste in some people’s mouths? ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/2 "2009-06-17T20:01:12Z")
I’m up for it. 🙂 I will soon be destroyed in the other game I’m playing at the moment, so I would welcome a new one to play in. ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/3 "2009-06-26T02:11:08Z")
… giving this a bump hoping people just didn’t see it… ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/4 "2009-06-26T02:47:52Z")
Thanks. I am open to any and all press possibilities. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/5 "2009-06-26T03:50:49Z")
I’m down. I would prefer to play classical, as I havne’t the experience to tackle a variant, but am willing to try just about anything. Was just bitching that I wanted to play again to a friend. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/6 "2009-06-26T04:08:09Z")
Hell yes! I loved the diplomacy on the other board, but the whole closed comm thing was highly intimidating. Open press would be really fun. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/7 "2009-06-26T04:12:28Z")
If we get 7, I’ve always wanted to try the [1900](http://www.diplom.org/Online/maps/1900-large.gif) map. Main selling point is the more open Med, possibly giving Italy a better game. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/8 "2009-06-26T05:09:14Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > If we get 7, I’ve always wanted to try the [1900](http://www.diplom.org/Online/maps/1900-large.gif) map. Main selling point is the more open Med, possibly giving Italy a better game. I dunno…isn’t Germany already powerful enough without 4 supply centers? ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/9 "2009-06-26T05:36:47Z")
Im in. Standard variation only though. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/10 "2009-06-26T08:51:13Z")
I’d be in for an Open Press game. I used to be a regular Dope player but the long deadlines and slow pace of email correspondence always killed my motivation leaving to some really crummy mid-games. Open Press would be a really cool alternative to test out. I’ve only ever played the Classic map (I think there might have been a crazy 30+ player map with everyone only having 1 SC, but I got killed pretty quick there) and would probably prefer to stick with that since the Open Press will be enough of a new experience, I’m not sure I need to further complicate things. Of course if the consensus favors a variant and you need a 7th (or a bigger variant) I’d be willing to play so long as it remains Open Press. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/11 "2009-06-26T09:35:16Z")
I’m willing to give it a go, I’m probably not going to survive long in my game either. I would prefer the classic map. Open press sounds like a good idea as it will also keep them game fresh. I would also suggest a regular deadline for moves to be handed in by. Actually, I would suggest that only the final moves to be handed in by PM even though all the discussion is open. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/12 "2009-06-26T11:33:30Z")
I’d prefer the classic map too and I’m happy to give open press a try. 🆒 Open/closed press? No difference, except I’ll just be ignored publicly rather than privately. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/13 "2009-06-26T13:41:08Z")
Fair enough. The 1900 map is basically the classic map with a number of gameplay balancing changes, and some expanded real estate in the Med (and yes a series of somewhat complicated yet commonsensical rules on movement from Egypt to the Mid-Atlantic). Germany getting 4 centers has been balanced by some other changes (Italy actually has a chance now, and Russia gets an extra unit if invaded). Perhaps we can play that on a future date. ---
**Author:** ![History\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b19c9b/32.png) [@History\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/History_Geek)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/14 "2009-06-27T00:20:15Z")
I’ll play, or stand as an alternate, if there’s already 7 players (I’m too lazy to count posts). Any variation on map or press is fine by me. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/15 "2009-06-27T01:54:31Z")
9 so far if I’m counting correctly. We may need a GM-one function could be to pass on black press (anonymous). Since it was my thread I’ll volunteer (tho I am itching to play) unless someone else steps up (and then there’s the choice of playing medium, i.e. the site to use, unless it is all graded by hand). ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/16 "2009-06-27T03:26:16Z")
What exactly does “Open Press” mean? That if I’m, say, trying to talk Austria into stabbing Turkey, I would do so openly and in public, here in this (or a game designated) thread? Then actual orders would be posted to the adjudicator anonymously? Interesting. VERY interesting. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/17 "2009-06-27T03:47:00Z")
Yes. Everyone would be under an Honor Rule never to PM/email anybody, all discussion goes on here. You have the freedom to be as cryptic or as open as you please. The Black Press option is where someone emails the GM, who then passes on the message, anonymously, into the main thread. This just adds to the hijinks level. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/18 "2009-06-27T03:57:58Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > The Black Press option is where someone emails the GM, who then passes on the message, anonymously, into the main thread. This just adds to the hijinks level. I’ve tried to start the completely open press version, but I like the black press version. Perhaps we could add an extra player that has no units, he only fucks around with players using black press. As far as variants go, the Fleet Rome variant is a good one for those who prefer the standard map. It replaces Italy’s Army in Rome with a Fleet, thus opening up his opening options and making him less of a whipping boy. - **garygnu** Reigning Doper Diplomacy Champ ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/19 "2009-06-27T12:42:53Z")
Technically, what I described was GREY press. Black is actually where people fake message origins (i.e. France sends a message which appears to come from Germany). Milan variant (Italian supply center is moved westwards from Venice) is an even better remedy. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097/20 "2009-06-27T16:47:42Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > 9 so far if I’m counting correctly. We may need a GM-one function could be to pass on black press (anonymous). Since it was my thread I’ll volunteer (tho I am itching to play) unless someone else steps up (and then there’s the choice of playing medium, i.e. the site to use, unless it is all graded by hand). Ok, I’m willing to run the game here, if everyone is up for it. Classic map and open press, with seasons turning on a weekly basis. Current players from the top down are: 1. John DiFool 2. wevets 3. Tristan 4. pedescribe 5. treis 6. Omniscient 7. Malacandra Subs: 1. History Geek [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-another-diplomacy-game/500097.md?page=2)