# Anyone up for some scifi D&D? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 3, 2008, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922 "2008-03-03T06:17:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/41 "2008-03-10T05:40:42Z")
I’d love to see everyone else’s characters, if you’ve got them done, as well. I won’t be finalizing approval until I see everyone’s characters. I don’t like matrix campaigns, fer’instance, so if everyone turns out to be a decker, I’m going to have to put the kibosh on some. My campaigns require some mindless gun toters and wizardy guys in addition to the more Gibson-y types. ---
**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/42 "2008-03-10T15:57:47Z")
Just so we’re all on the same page, which edition rules are we using? If it’s the most recent, I’ll have to reach out and see if I can get my hands on them. ---
**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/43 "2008-03-10T18:55:08Z")
Upon response from a friend, I now -have- the books. Yay friends! Looking through them… Hrm. I know the idea of a ‘face’ sometimes works in a game, and sometimes doesn’t. Some games have social sessions, and some get down to the down-and-dirty of the infiltration and combat. So, mister GM, will a ‘face’ have a place in this game or no? Either way, I’m probably going adept. Power choice comes down to the viability of a mainly ‘social’ character. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/44 "2008-03-11T02:29:35Z")
I need to get my hands on a PHB before I can make a character. I tried to do that today, but Game Towne was closed. What the hell kind of gaming store closes on Mondays– **only** on Mondays–every week? And I walked a long way to get there, too! Anyway, I’ll try to do it tomorrow. If my character ends up being a little too Gibson, I’m willing to change it to a regular street sam. Probably not a mage, since I don’t intend to buy a PHB, a magic handbook, etc… ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/45 "2008-03-11T04:40:35Z")
I don’t know if it helps anyone, but I found an excel character sheet [here](http://pavao.org/shadowrun/generators/), about halfway down the page, labeled SR4Chargen.xls. It doesn’t have any nifty macros for calculating scores, but it _does_ keep track of BP and contain a list of all the default skills. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/46 "2008-03-11T07:09:15Z")
Faces have a place. If you can’t get a book tomorrow, email me and I can -ahem- arrange for you to borrow mine. ---
**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/47 "2008-03-11T12:34:34Z")
All righty then. Working on my face / warrior adept. Will send out preliminaries tonight, as today looks to be a busy one. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/48 "2008-03-11T12:46:34Z")
I have some electronic gimmicks to hand out to the party… should I just list what I’m giving out here to save time, or would it be better to wait until the formal game and do it IC? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/49 "2008-03-11T12:51:20Z")
I’ll be the mage. I’ll have my character done by Wednesday. I’m thinking a Sicilian native who emigrated to Seattle only a few years ago. Some European experience, but fairly new to the Seattle scene. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/50 "2008-03-11T16:29:47Z")
That character sheet is **awesome**. Now I just need my book. I’m going to the store in a few hours to try and grab a copy. BTW, I’m glad _somebody_ decided to play a mage! ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/51 "2008-03-11T19:13:37Z")
Hmm, actually, scratch the electronics thing; I just discovered a somewhat gigantic hole in my fiendish plan, so I’ll have to scrap it for party safety. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/52 "2008-03-12T02:57:06Z")
Just checking in to say that I got my book and I’ll be doing chargen later tonight. Thanks for the offer anyways, **Diomedes**. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/53 "2008-03-13T01:31:20Z")
Hey Diomedes, quick GM question: do you consider PC blood that gets spilled during the course of ordinary combat to be a reasonable ritual component? ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/54 "2008-03-13T01:53:17Z")
And it looks like I forgot to add dice to my starting nuyen roll, so I just spent the last of my nuyen on nondescript clothing. Gah! ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/55 "2008-03-13T01:58:02Z")
[QUOTE=Hostile Dialect] And it looks like I forgot to add dice to my starting nuyen roll, so I just spent the last of my nuyen on nondescript clothing. Gah! [/QUOTE] Wait, what is this about dice? I just multiplied the number of BP I’d invested by 5,000… ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/56 "2008-03-13T02:21:18Z")
No, I meant the nuyen your character starts with. After chargen. You know, in the game itself. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/57 "2008-03-13T02:48:23Z")
[QUOTE=Hostile Dialect] No, I meant the nuyen your character starts with. After chargen. You know, in the game itself. [/QUOTE] Ohhh, I didn’t even roll for that. My poor character is starting with something like 400 nuyen to her name. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/58 "2008-03-13T03:12:11Z")
You don’t keep the nuyen left over from chargen. Let me find the relevant table in the book. Ah, yes, page 86: ```auto STARTING MONEY TABLE Lifestyle Dice Rolled Money Multiplier Street 1D6 x 10 Squatter 2D6 x 20 Low 3D6 x 50 Middle 4D6 x 100 High 4D6 x 500 Luxury 4D6 x 1,000 ``` Page 49: > [@Starting Nuyen](#): > > Nuyen used to purchase gear under Resources doesn’t carry over when you finish character creation and are ready to play. The amount of nuyen you start the game with depends on your lifestyle. Consult the Starting Money Table and roll randomly. Add up the total results of all dice. If you have any nuyen left over from Resources, you may add +1 to the dice roll for every 100¥ left over, up to a maximum of 3 times the number of dice rolled (in other words, you may add up to half the maximum possible dice result). Multiply the result by the appropriate factor listed, and the result is your character’s starting nuyen. > Starting nuyen can come in multiple forms–certified credsticks, securities, stocks in corporations, secret bank accounts, a big pile of cash and so on. Starting nuyen cannot come in gear (magical or otherwise), weapons, cyberware, contacts, or anything that must be bought. Characters can purchase things immediately upon entering the game, but any items bought are subject to Availability and the whim of the gamemaster. So if you have 400 nuyen left over at the end of chargen and a Low lifestyle, you would start with (3D6+4) \* 50 nuyen. Or with a High lifestyle, (4D6+4) \* 500 nuyen, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/59 "2008-03-13T03:13:51Z")
[QUOTE=Hostile Dialect] You don’t keep the nuyen left over from chargen. Let me find the relevant table in the book. Ah, yes, page 86: ```auto STARTING MONEY TABLE Lifestyle Dice Rolled Money Multiplier Street 1D6 x 10 Squatter 2D6 x 20 Low 3D6 x 50 Middle 4D6 x 100 High 4D6 x 500 Luxury 4D6 x 1,000 ``` Page 49: So if you have 400 nuyen left over at the end of chargen and a Low lifestyle, you would start with (3D6+4) \* 50 nuyen. Or with a High lifestyle, (4D6+4) \* 500 nuyen, etc. [/QUOTE] I see… thanks! I guess I’d better go and find 400 nuyen worth of goodies to buy. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922/60 "2008-03-13T03:22:09Z")
Hmm… we don’t have a party healer, do we? If nobody is going to take any of the Medicine stuff, I might be able to find a spare BP and buy us an Autodoc. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-up-for-some-scifi-d-d/439922.md?page=4)