# Anyone watch Justified on FX?

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**Created:** [April 8, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695 "2011-04-08T18:17:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jane\_Doe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@Jane\_Doe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jane_Doe)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/1 "2011-04-08T18:17:23Z")

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Hi! Long time lurker, first time poster here. I learned something that shocks me so much I had to come out of the shadow and post. I just learned that the lead in Justified, Timothy Olyphant also had played the main character in Hitman and was the main bad guy in Live Free or Die Hard. I consider all of these among my favorites and never once realized this was the same guy. Even now that I found out I still have a hard time making the mental connection. Is this just me?

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/2 "2011-04-08T18:27:08Z")

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I haven’t seen the two movies you mentioned, so it’s not a problem for me.

I remember him as Seth Bullock in _Deadwood_. Raylan is a lot like Seth, except that Raylan has a sense of humor. Seth could never see the humor in any situation. His nickname at TWOP and elsewhere was “Clench”. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Jane\_Doe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@Jane\_Doe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jane_Doe)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/3 "2011-04-08T20:11:04Z")

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Oh, never had HBO so I never watched deadwood. Heard it was engrossing. I am a fan of action movies, hence the B- “Hitman” in my favs.

Thanks for replying. I probably would not have posted again for a very long time if no one responded.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/4 "2011-04-08T20:32:22Z")

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I first remember him as the drug dealer in **Go**. But yeah, he’s more like Seth Bullock here. Still a great nuanced performance. Plus it’s got Shane from **The Shield** , who is also fantastic.

My current favorite show on TV, until **Breaking Bad** comes back.

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/5 "2011-04-08T20:32:34Z")

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Yeah, I can never see him as anyone other than Sheriff Bullock. Now that you mention it, he does always look like he’s keistered about a two-pound bag of quarters and is trying to hold them in.

Jane, Deadwood is great but it can be hard to watch.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/6 "2011-04-08T20:37:49Z")

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_Deadwood_ is well worth the rental. I don’t know that it qualifies as “action”, but there’s plenty of violence – some noisy, some quiet. 🙂

Are you liking _Justified_? I have four episodes queued up to watch, but I hate watching on the computer. My cable company doesn’t carry FX, dammit.

Another actor who shows up and I go “What? He’s in this?” is Garrett Dillahunt. He played two different characters in two seasons of _Deadwood_ – the cockeyed asshole who killed Bill Hickock, and the smooth and slimy serial killer Francis Wolcott. Next time I saw him was as Tommy Lee Jones’ somewhat dim deputy in _No Country for Old Men_, and now he’s a doofus but lovable dad in _Raising Hope_. He also played an abusive husband in _ER_. Dillahunt is awesome.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/7 "2011-04-08T20:43:59Z")

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My favorite of his pre- _Justified_ roles was Kelly the porn producer from the under appreciated [The Girl Next Door](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0265208/combined).

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/8 "2011-04-08T20:44:44Z")

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There were a couple of earlier threads about this season’s _Justified_ episodes, but we’ve been slacking the last few weeks. I’m absolutely loving this season. Mags is a great character and I think Boyd Crowder is the best character on TV right now.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/9 "2011-04-08T20:45:46Z")

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> [@Jane\_Doe](#):
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> Hi! Long time lurker, first time poster here. I learned something that shocks me so much I had to come out of the shadow and post. I just learned that the lead in Justified, Timothy Olyphant also had played the main character in Hitman and was the main bad guy in Live Free or Die Hard. I consider all of these among my favorites and never once realized this was the same guy. Even now that I found out I still have a hard time making the mental connection. Is this just me?

Never saw _Hitman_, but I caught _LFoDH_ on cable a few months back and recognized him right away.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/10 "2011-04-08T20:52:10Z")

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I was impressed at how they managed to get Elmore Leonard wrong on the little screen when they’d so often gotten him wrong on the big screen. If you haven’t read Riding the Rap, the whole series is basically a sequel to that book, and is in many ways a meta-commentary on that story.

There’s no spoiler here, because it’s the set up of the show: Raylan Givens gives Tommy Bucks until sunset to get out of town, or he’ll shoot him. When the time comes, Tommy Bucks draws on Givens, so you can wonder whether Raylan would have actually shot him. But as it happened, the shooting was ruled “justified”. But in the series, they explore, at least for the first few episodes, how people would behave around a guy who had actually pulled a cowboy-ass move like that. All the tough guys in Harlan County can’t help but measure themselves against him.

Even when that theme has sort of played itself out, things play out in a fairly typical Elmore Leonard fashion – with scene after scene of some of the damnedest dialogue and characters in any genre.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/11 "2011-04-08T21:18:57Z")

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Johnny Angel, did you mean to say “I was impressed at how they managed to get Elmore Leonard _right_ on the little screen”?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/12 "2011-04-08T21:22:33Z")

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Um, yes. Damnit. They got him right. It was the best Elmore Leonard production since Hombre.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/13 "2011-04-08T21:28:36Z")

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I agree, and I figured that’s what you meant by the rest of the post.

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/14 "2011-04-08T22:03:57Z")

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_Justified_ is my pick for best show on the air these days. I saw just this week that it’s already been picked up for Season Three. It had better be on the Emmy list this year. It had only just arrived last time and got shorted as a result. The writing is the best, bar none, with _The Good Wife_ a close second.

Olyphant and Goggins make the show but there’s not a weak character or actor in the batch. And the dialog is fantastic.

It’s funny how FX and AMC have gotten to the top of the heap with good shows.

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/15 "2011-04-08T22:12:59Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> _Deadwood_ is well worth the rental. I don’t know that it qualifies as “action”, but there’s plenty of violence – some noisy, some quiet. 🙂
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> Are you liking _Justified_? I have four episodes queued up to watch, but I hate watching on the computer. My cable company doesn’t carry FX, dammit.
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> Another actor who shows up and I go “What? He’s in this?” is Garrett Dillahunt. He played two different characters in two seasons of _Deadwood_ – the cockeyed asshole who killed Bill Hickock, and the smooth and slimy serial killer Francis Wolcott. Next time I saw him was as Tommy Lee Jones’ somewhat dim deputy in _No Country for Old Men_, and now he’s a doofus but lovable dad in _Raising Hope_. He also played an abusive husband in _ER_. Dillahunt is awesome.

Justified is the best show on TV right now, IMHO.

Can’t you just hook up your PC to your TV?

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**Author:** ![Jane\_Doe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@Jane\_Doe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jane_Doe)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/16 "2011-04-08T22:18:53Z")

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Thanks for pointing out Elmore Leonard, I was not aware the Justified characters are based on one of his books. He seems to be a very prolific writer who I would like to read, can you recommend a particular title for me to start with?

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/17 "2011-04-08T22:25:58Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> Another actor who shows up and I go “What? He’s in this?” is Garrett Dillahunt. He played two different characters in two seasons of _Deadwood_ – the cockeyed asshole who killed Bill Hickock, and the smooth and slimy serial killer Francis Wolcott. Next time I saw him was as Tommy Lee Jones’ somewhat dim deputy in _No Country for Old Men_, and now he’s a doofus but lovable dad in _Raising Hope_. He also played an abusive husband in _ER_. Dillahunt is awesome.

Dilahunt was also in **Winter’s Bone** (aka The Best Movie of 2010)

I first noticed Olyphant in _Go_ also, and have been following him through _Deadwood_ and now _Justified_, but I was reading an article on the new Scream movie and didn’t even remember that he was in _Scream 2_! (which I saw but clearly tried to block from memory, with partial success)

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/18 "2011-04-08T22:30:37Z")

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> [@Jane\_Doe](#):
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> Thanks for pointing out Elmore Leonard, I was not aware the Justified characters are based on one of his books. He seems to be a very prolific writer who I would like to read, can you recommend a particular title for me to start with?

Ooof, that’s tough. My first exposure was in college when I was assigned _Labrava._ Earlier he wrote some great westerns. Maybe start with _52 Pickup_.

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/19 "2011-04-08T22:37:59Z")

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> [@Jane\_Doe](#):
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> Thanks for pointing out Elmore Leonard, I was not aware the Justified characters are based on one of his books. He seems to be a very prolific writer who I would like to read, can you recommend a particular title for me to start with?

If you’re interested in the Raylan Givens character, I believe he appears in _Pronto_ and _Riding the Rap_. He also appears in a short story collection, called _When the Women Come Out to Dance_, and his story is available to read online [here](http://www.harpercollins.com/browseinside/index.aspx?isbn13=9780060586164). I’m mostly familiar with Elmore Leonard’s work from the 90’s, before graduate school reigned in my extraneous reading, but you might try _Rum Punch_, _Cuba Libre_, _Out of Sight_, _Get Shorty_.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watch-justified-on-fx/577695/20 "2011-04-08T22:40:22Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> Maybe start with _52 Pickup_.

I have not read that one, but I did see the movie.

Holy shit, the scene where Roy Schneider brings the money to the blackmailer and starts beating him with it. Was that in the book?

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