# Anyone watching Endeavor? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 20, 2016, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-endeavor/757864 "2016-06-20T01:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-endeavor/757864/1 "2016-06-20T01:16:54Z")
My husband and I binged the series on Amazon prime, and tonight is the newest episode PBS. Anyone else watching? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-endeavor/757864/2 "2016-06-20T14:54:53Z")
Yes, I did. The episode had a certain … prestige about it. 😉 Did you watch “The Tunnel” afterwards? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-endeavor/757864/3 "2016-06-20T15:27:38Z")
We watched the first two (and supposedly only) seasons and really liked it. There was a big kerfuffle about whether to make any more episodes because the timelines wouldn’t mesh with the original Inspector Morse series, where the character is significantly older. Apparently there is now a season four in the making. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-endeavor/757864/4 "2016-06-20T15:33:35Z")
I watched both the new “Endeavor” episode and “The Tunnel”–I was particularly interested in the latter as I’d been a fan (one of the few!) of the American version of the story, “The Bridge”. I was a bit disappointed by the solution of the Endeavor mystery as it seemed overly reminiscent of _The Prestige_ (novel by Christopher Priest, movie by Christopher Nolan). But the show is certainly done in the high style (ITV-level, anyway). ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-endeavor/757864/5 "2016-06-20T15:43:27Z")
> [@John\_Bredin](#): > > Yes, I did. The episode had a certain … prestige about it. 😉 > > Did you watch “The Tunnel” afterwards? Indeed. I didn’t watch the Tunnel though. Perhaps a visit to on demand is in my future. ---
**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-endeavor/757864/6 "2016-06-20T18:12:02Z")
I enjoy “Endeavour” very much, but as a huge fan of the “Inspector Morse” series, I find it difficult to believe that Shaun Evans could ever grow up to be John Thaw. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-endeavor/757864/7 "2016-06-20T19:51:19Z")
> [@pinkfreud](#): > > I enjoy “Endeavour” very much, but as a huge fan of the “Inspector Morse” series, I find it difficult to believe that Shaun Evans could ever grow up to be John Thaw. I have never actually seen the inspector morse series (original, I mean). Just stumbled into endeavor and really enjoyed it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-endeavor/757864/8 "2016-06-20T20:10:39Z")
My random thoughts on The Tunnel: \*I had to laugh (just a little!) at the reveal of who the bottom half of the “body” was. Clearly the murderer’s middle-finger to the dead French politician to pick someone who embodied everything she ranted against. _The French cop must be the first Vulcan on Earth, undercover. 🙂 Her inability to read basic social cues – or perhaps ability to read them but inability to give a flying f_ck – is prodigious. Her fellow cops have a sense of humor, so it clearly isn’t a “Brits overuse humor” thing like she said. \*My guess from the twin-sister photograph on her desk (I think the British cop is correct) is that her sister was a murder victim and that’s why she’s so hard-nosed to the point of “Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!” \*Beyond the humanity of it, wouldn’t her insistence on interviewing the financier’s wife RIGHT! NOW! when she clearly didn’t want to be, and clearly stated a willingness to answer questions later, have potentially jeopardized the investigation? Or is the French system so different on this point (“Am I free to go?”) than the American system? \*Ditto pushing the journalist for answers RIGHT! NOW! when further flustering him could be fatal. \*I thought the one “social” thing she did, asking the British cop about his first name Karl being the German spelling, was her prompting him to ask about her German name (Wasserman). They were interrupted before he could ask, though. Yes, the French cop is more interesting to me than the British cop, who seems so far like a bunch of police detectives (British, American, whatever) we’ve seen before. 🙂 \*If the creepy (fake?) aid worker isn’t the murderer, he’ll clearly be a suspect at some point. If nothing else, the man who walks in on a woman showering needs to get together with the woman who changes her shirt in the middle of the police station. 🙂 “Boundaries? What are those?” ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-endeavor/757864/9 "2016-06-20T20:22:46Z")
I take it _The Tunnel_ was the original _The Bridge_? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-endeavor/757864/10 "2016-06-20T20:31:49Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I take it _The Tunnel_ was the original _The Bridge_? IMDB shows that first came The Bridge (Swedish/Danish version set on that border), then The Tunnel, then an American production of The Bridge set on the U.S./Mexico border. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-endeavor/757864/11 "2016-06-20T20:59:38Z")
> [@John\_Bredin](#): > > IMDB shows that first came The Bridge (Swedish/Danish version set on that border), then The Tunnel, then an American production of The Bridge set on the U.S./Mexico border. Amazing. I remember when they made _one_ version of a film and just subtitled it for different markets. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-endeavor/757864/12 "2016-06-20T21:19:55Z")
Well, to be fair, different issues (social, political, cultural, or merely interpersonal) can be addressed in different versions. I’d imagine the interactions between an American officer (FBI? State Police? Sheriff?) and his/her Mexican counterpart (Federale? State police?) with a corpse in the middle of a Rio Grande bridge are a little different than a British and a French detective dealing with [del]a corpse[/del] two half-corpses in the Chunnel. 🙂