# Anyone watching Netflix's Making a Murderer? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 20, 2015, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-netflixs-making-a-murderer/740882 "2015-12-20T00:30:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-netflixs-making-a-murderer/740882/261 "2016-08-13T01:15:52Z")
How much did Dassey’s confession contribute towards Avery’s conviction? It’s been a while since I watched the series. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-netflixs-making-a-murderer/740882/262 "2016-08-13T02:42:41Z")
I don’t believe Dassey’s confession was presented. Dassey certainly didn’t testify. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-netflixs-making-a-murderer/740882/263 "2017-06-23T06:47:57Z")
> [@](#): > > The murder confession of a Wisconsin man featured in the Netflix series “Making a Murderer” was coerced, a federal appeals panel ruled Thursday, affirming a lower court decision. > > Brendan Dassey, now 27, didn’t admit “from his own free will” that he helped his uncle murder and sexually assault photographer Teresa Halbach in 2005, a U.S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals panel ruled in a 2-1 vote. The decision upholds Judge William Duffin’s 2016 ruling that Manitowoc County, Wisconsin, investigators violated Dassey’s rights in obtaining the confession. > **['Making A Murderer' Confession Coerced, Appeals Court Affirms](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/making-a-murderer-confession_n_594c2084e4b02734df29391f)** > > The ruling may mean freedom for Brendan Dassey. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-netflixs-making-a-murderer/740882/264 "2017-06-23T10:22:05Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > ['Making A Murderer' Confession Coerced, Appeals Court Affirms | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/making-a-murderer-confession_us_594c2084e4b02734df29391f) From that article: > [@](#): > > Dassey was sentenced in 2007 to life without parole for the killing. His confession formed the basis of much of the prosecution’s case against his uncle, Steven Avery, who was convicted in a separate trial and sentenced to life. I’m not sure how accurate that is, but if it is accurate, this could help Avery. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-netflixs-making-a-murderer/740882/265 "2017-06-23T12:15:15Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > ['Making A Murderer' Confession Coerced, Appeals Court Affirms | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/making-a-murderer-confession_us_594c2084e4b02734df29391f) is he (Dassey) out yet? ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-netflixs-making-a-murderer/740882/266 "2018-06-25T21:19:52Z")
Dassey still in prison, Supreme Court turned down his appeal today > **[Brendan Dassey's Murder Conviction Appeal Denied By Supreme Court](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/supreme-court-brendan-dassey_n_5b30f434e4b0040e27458034)** > > Many fans of "Making A Murderer" believe police coerced Dassey into making a false confession. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-netflixs-making-a-murderer/740882/267 "2018-06-27T07:54:36Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Dassey still in prison, Supreme Court turned down his appeal today > > [Brendan Dassey's Murder Conviction Appeal Denied By Supreme Court | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/supreme-court-brendan-dassey_us_5b30f434e4b0040e27458034) I’d love to know their reasons for denying the appeal, but apparently by custom they don’t reveal their reasons for such denials. The portions of his interviews shown on MAM make it appear, at least to me, that his confession was coerced. If I was on a jury and was shown what we saw on TV I certainly would have reasonable doubt. I suppose it’s conceivable that what we saw on TV was edited to give a false impression. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-netflixs-making-a-murderer/740882/268 "2018-06-27T13:24:13Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I’d love to know their reasons for denying the appeal, but apparently by custom they don’t reveal their reasons for such denials. > > The portions of his interviews shown on MAM make it appear, at least to me, that his confession was coerced. > > If I was on a jury and was shown what we saw on TV I certainly would have reasonable doubt. > > I suppose it’s conceivable that what we saw on TV was edited to give a false impression. The Supreme Court only acts on misapplication of the law; not on the possible innocence of any defendant. Also, MoaM wasn’t an objective telling of the facts. ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-netflixs-making-a-murderer/740882/269 "2018-06-27T13:32:46Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > The Supreme Court only acts on misapplication of the law; not on the possible innocence of any defendant. I’m not really surprised that the SC didn’t take the case. They would be looking at legal and constitutional issues. I am dismayed, however, that the local courts didn’t grant a new trial or overturn the conviction. It seems to me it was a miscarriage of justice to convict the boy, given how he was interviewed. But the blame goes to his mother, who allowed the interviews without a lawyer present. > [@](#): > > Also, MoaM wasn’t an objective telling of the facts. True, but the videos are pretty compelling in showing the boy being manipulated by the police. As indicated in other threads here, the boy would have been much better served by clamming up and simply asking for a lawyer. Or, given that he was under 18 at the time, his mother should have denied any interviews without a lawyer. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-netflixs-making-a-murderer/740882/270 "2018-06-27T13:42:27Z")
I don’t disagree with the police manipulation, but that SOP in interviews. They are also permitted to lie. The best his defense team can hope for is new evidence to emerge. ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-netflixs-making-a-murderer/740882/271 "2018-06-27T14:08:04Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > I don’t disagree with the police manipulation, but that SOP in interviews. They are also permitted to lie. The best his defense team can hope for is new evidence to emerge. I agree. I think legally allowing police to lie to people/suspects they are interviewing shouldn’t be permitted. But it is, unfortunately. I think the argument is that he was intellectually challenged, and not able to know or understand what the police were doing, nor understand his rights. I have to admit that even that argument falls apart when his mother allowed the interviews without a lawyer present. > [@](#): > > The portions of his interviews shown on MAM make it appear, at least to me, that his confession was coerced. > > If I was on a jury and was shown what we saw on TV I certainly would have reasonable doubt. It’s been some time since I saw the TV show. Were the police interviews shown to the jury to the extent we saw them? ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-netflixs-making-a-murderer/740882/272 "2018-06-27T15:58:42Z")
a judge did give him a new trial but then that ruling was reversed. The SC turned him down which means they did not have an issue with that reversal. He could still appeal on other grounds if he can find another reason to appeal and find lawyers to help . ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-netflixs-making-a-murderer/740882/273 "2018-11-14T15:24:16Z")
I watched Season 2 thinking that I had already seen the first one. Then I realised that I was confusing the first season with a Dateline or something like that I had seen. So then I watched the first season. … all of the above is just a shameless way to bump this thread. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anyone-watching-netflixs-making-a-murderer/740882.md?page=13)