# Anything else you motherfuckers need? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 16, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231 "2009-07-16T16:51:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 104
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2061 "2009-08-09T00:23:30Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > Clearly, the thread title is inaccurate. This kind of trick where the OP makes shit up in the thread title has stuck in my craw for a long time. Way to fail. The title of this thread is a question. ---
**Author:** ![Dick\_Dastardly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@Dick\_Dastardly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dick_Dastardly)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2062 "2009-08-09T00:38:37Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Way to fail. The title of this thread is a question. And the answer is that you’re already paying for the healthcare of people who don’t have insurance. If we bring in a proper single-payer universal system you’ll end up paying less, not have to worry about denial of care so much, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2063 "2009-08-09T00:43:43Z")
I agree that that is one possible outcome. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2064 "2009-08-09T00:59:34Z")
So where’s my pony, bitch? ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2065 "2009-08-09T01:17:07Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Way to fail. The title of this thread is a question. Oh come now. The question is clearly posed in the form of an _offer_. If you wish to fall back on a grammatical technicality to renege on that offer, I shall be forced to regard you hereafter as a chiseling weasel. Or a weasely chiseler. Your choice. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2066 "2009-08-09T04:07:06Z")
> [@Hamadryad](#): > > And put them where? They’re probably going to cost the poor, beleaguered taxpayer far more in the foster care system than they would in their welfare rat-ridden homes… and the foster care system is overburdened as it is. If the end result is that far fewer children are born and raised in squalor, that’s a good thing, right? ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2067 "2009-08-09T04:10:10Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > Clearly, the thread title is inaccurate. This kind of trick where the OP makes shit up in the thread title has stuck in my craw for a long time. This kind of “misunderstanding” of a post, that by now appears purposeful, has stuck in my craw for a long time. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2068 "2009-08-09T04:12:14Z")
> [@Dick\_Dastardly](#): > > And the answer is that you’re already paying for the healthcare of people who don’t have insurance. If we bring in a proper single-payer universal system you’ll end up paying less, not have to worry about denial of care so much, etc. You shouldn’t say things like that unless you can prove them. Which you can’t. (Hint-pointing at some other country is not proof.) ---
**Author:** ![Dick\_Dastardly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@Dick\_Dastardly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dick_Dastardly)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2069 "2009-08-09T06:31:48Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > You shouldn’t say things like that unless you can prove them. Which you can’t. > > (Hint-pointing at some other country is not proof.) I can prove that America could cut around 30% from healthcare insurance bills by switching to a single-payer system easily. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2070 "2009-08-09T06:46:51Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > (Hint-pointing at some other country is not proof.) This is a whoosh, right? ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2071 "2009-08-09T07:09:18Z")
> [@Dick\_Dastardly](#): > > I can prove that America could cut around 30% from healthcare insurance bills by switching to a single-payer system easily. And yet, you didn’t go on to do so? ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2072 "2009-08-09T07:10:37Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > This is a whoosh, right? Nope! ---
**Author:** ![Dick\_Dastardly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@Dick\_Dastardly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dick_Dastardly)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2073 "2009-08-09T15:23:48Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > And yet, you didn’t go on to do so? Medicare is a single payer system with about a 3% overhead, and most of that could be cut by hiring some of those socialist Canadian healthcare experts to set the Medicare framework up like the Canadian system. Why do you think it’s possible for Canada’s system to run a 1% overhead but not America’s? Why are they different to us? The only difference is they take the profit out of running healthcare insurance while we don’t. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2074 "2009-08-09T15:30:12Z")
Because Canadians can read words like “take the profit out” and not run screaming from the room. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2075 "2009-08-09T15:33:55Z")
> [@Dick\_Dastardly](#): > > Medicare is a single payer system with about a 3% overhead, and most of that could be cut by hiring some of those socialist Canadian healthcare experts to set the Medicare framework up like the Canadian system. > > Why do you think it’s possible for Canada’s system to run a 1% overhead but not America’s? Why are they different to us? The only difference is they take the profit out of running healthcare insurance while we don’t. The profit margin for health insurers is only about 6%. While that is not insignificant, it is hardly unprecedented or indicative of gouging. The problem with our health care is not the “excessive profits” health insurers enjoy, despite the heated rhetoric on this board (I don’t mean you). ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2076 "2009-08-09T15:36:15Z")
Its not the amount of profit, but the means to that end. A lot of us find condemning people to pain, suffering, and possible death a bit, well, unseemly. ---
**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2077 "2009-08-09T15:47:26Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > If the end result is that far fewer children are born and raised in squalor, that’s a good thing, right? The battered and broken foster care system is a GOOD idea for kids? Really? I don’t think I’d want to put up with the bitching from people like you in 15 years when a lot of those kids are making your life miserable by being unproductive members of society because they were so traumatized by their impersonal, GOVERNMENT-PLANNED, TAXPAYER-FUNDED upbringing. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2078 "2009-08-09T16:07:21Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > This kind of “misunderstanding” of a post, that by now appears purposeful, has stuck in my craw for a long time. Mine too. I expect to read your scathing excoriation of **Rand Rover** in the “Palin says Obama would kill her baby” thread, which is what I was referring to, any minute now. I take that back, actually; since it’s you, it’ll take about a week for you to read this post and answer it. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2079 "2009-08-09T16:14:35Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Its not the amount of profit, but the means to that end. A lot of us find condemning people to pain, suffering, and possible death a bit, well, unseemly. Then it’s probably not a good idea to tag excessive profits as the cause of the health care issues, eh? Yet, that’s exactly what Reid and Pelosi and the rest of the Dem imbeciles are doing. The old sleight of hand. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2080 "2009-08-09T16:18:57Z")
Why, no, you’re quite right, its not the excessive profits, its the means used to _obtain_ those profits. By the way, love your guitars. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231.md?page=103) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231.md?page=105)