# Anything else you motherfuckers need?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 16, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231 "2009-07-16T16:51:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2241 "2009-08-25T19:33:27Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> **“The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves in their separate, and individual capacities.”** _[~~Abraham Lincoln](http://quotationsbook.com/quote/45475/)_  
> The Republican Party would do well to examine its own history, and discover where it jumped the tracks.

> [@C3](#):
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> Abraham Lincoln could have used a copy editor.

People used, a lot more commas, back in those days. It makes reading, texts from that era, kind of painful to someone, with a more modern, sensibility.

ETA: Kind of like having the text read aloud by William Shatner, in fact.

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2242 "2009-08-25T19:43:46Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> I’m sorry, the insult appears to have gone over your head. I was referring to him as your sugar daddy as another way of calling you a whore, whereby he keeps your lazy ass supported in exchange for sexual favors. Is that clear enough, you fucking retard? Otherwise, I can draw a diagram.

Logic has gone over your head, or perhaps you simply have no experience with a proper husband. When I say my husband is not a sugar daddy, I’d have thought that even you should have understood the difference, but if all you know is exchanging sex for support…

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> I’m not Shot From Guns, but do you realize that one way to keep a sugar daddy is to marry him? Such as you did? Found yourself a nice man with a good income so you wouldn’t slide back into that fate worse than death…poverty.

Snort. If all I wanted was a walking wallet, I wouldn’t have “settled” for merely middle class and I’d have married far sooner than 36. Which of course completely ignores the fact that I was well out of poverty when I did marry, and not because some sugar daddy was paying my bills.

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> I know you’ll tell us you married for love, but I’m gonna find that hard to believe given your lack of empathy towards other humans.

Uh huh. Simply because I don’t think we should continue to support generations of folks living off the taxpayer doesn’t mean I have no empathy towards all other humans. One doesn’t need to be a sap that falls for all sob stories to have empathy.

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> Again, you are a sorry excuse for a social animal. I’m suprised you don’t understand all these taking care of the whole pack concepts better. Your dog(s) must be ashamed!

You obviously have no concept of pack dynamics.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2243 "2009-08-25T20:19:51Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> The Republican Party would do well to examine its own history, and discover where it jumped the tracks.

That would be around the time they swapped with the Democrats.

> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> People used, a lot more commas, back in those days. It makes reading, texts from that era, kind of painful to someone, with a more modern, sensibility.

I have taped to the wall behind my laptop the following \*Onion \*clip:

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> **Commas, Turning Up, Everywhere**  
> WASHINGTON–In the midst of a crisis that may have reached a breaking, point Tuesday afternoon, linguists, and grammarians, everywhere say they are baffled, by the sudden and seemingly random, appearance of commas, in our nation’s sentences. The epidemic of errant punctuation has spread, like wildfire, since signs of the epidemic first, appeared in a \*Washington Post \*article, on Federal Reserve Chairman, Ben, Bernanke. “This, is an unsettling trend,” columnist William Sa,fire, told reporters. “We’re seeing a collapse of the grammatical rules that have, held, the English language, together for, centuries,” Experts warn, that if this same, phenomenon, should occur with ellipses…

> [@curlcoat](#):
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> Logic has gone over your head, or perhaps you simply have no experience with a proper husband. When I say my husband is not a sugar daddy, I’d have thought that even you should have understood the difference, but if all you know is exchanging sex for support…

This isn’t about my understanding of a \*\*typical \*\*marriage–this is about my understanding of **you**. And I think \*\*you \*\*are a disgusting waste of meat. Because you don’t have the brains or morals to be ashamed of your attitudes, I’m going to make up stuff about you physically to shame you for, like being a fat, disgusting, lazy slob, or being a prostitute in all but name. Get it now?

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2244 "2009-08-25T22:28:24Z")

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[I made a diagram to help **Shot From Guns** out.](http://www.12pointfont.com/images/temp/SDMBvenn.JPG)

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2245 "2009-08-26T01:21:47Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> I’m going to make up stuff about you physically to shame you for, like being a fat, disgusting, lazy slob, or being a prostitute in all but name. Get it now?

Why would I be ashamed of things you make up?

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2246 "2009-08-27T17:08:25Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> [I made a diagram to help **Shot From Guns** out.](http://www.12pointfont.com/images/temp/SDMBvenn.JPG)

Aw, it looks like the domain registration expired. ☹

> [@curlcoat](#):
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> Why would I be ashamed of things you make up?

Because you’ve already shown remarkable credulity with regard to the things you yourself make up, so I figured I’d throw my hat in the ring. Plus, it would be creepy, not to mention a waste of my time, to actually track down who you are in real life so I can be guaranteed of mocking you for things you’d actually be self-conscious about, you disgusting whore meatbag.

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2247 "2009-08-27T19:19:20Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> so I can be guaranteed of mocking you for things you’d actually be self-conscious about, you disgusting whore meatbag.

Again, why would I be self-conscious about things you make up? Do you not understand the question?

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2248 "2009-08-27T19:42:37Z")

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BE. CAUSE. YOU. ARE. A. STU. PID. AND. CRED. U. LOUS. RE. TARD. YOU. FUCK. ING. SLUT.

DO. YOU. RE. QUIRE. [A. DIC. TION. A. RY](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/CREDULOUS)?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2249 "2009-08-27T19:44:35Z")

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“I’m sorry, Hal, I can’t read that.”

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2250 "2009-08-27T22:16:03Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> BE. CAUSE. YOU. ARE. A. STU. PID. AND. CRED. U. LOUS. RE. TARD. YOU. FUCK. ING. SLUT.
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> DO. YOU. RE. QUIRE. [A. DIC. TION. A. RY](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/CREDULOUS)?

Ah. Your line of, er, thought was so distorted that I just didn’t see. So, you think I am a retard because I refuse to believe what you think I should and am actually thinking for myself. But now you think that I am credulous enough to believe that I am a “fucking slut” simply because you say so? Amazing progression of, cough, logic.

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**Author:** ![stretch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@stretch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stretch)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2251 "2009-08-27T23:04:53Z")

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> [@curlcoat](#):
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> Snort. If all I wanted was a walking wallet, I wouldn’t have “settled” for merely middle class and I’d have married far sooner than 36. Which of course completely ignores the fact that I was well out of poverty when I did marry, and not because some sugar daddy was paying my bills.

Listen, nitwit, no one said you were smart or that you could pick 'em.

> [@curlcoat](#):
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> Uh huh. Simply because I don’t think we should continue to support generations of folks living off the taxpayer doesn’t mean I have no empathy towards all other humans. One doesn’t need to be a sap that falls for all sob stories to have empathy.

No, you seem to think that only certain people deemed worthy by you should get help. I think you need to expand your monkey sphere beyond you, your husband, and your pets.

> [@curlcoat](#):
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> You obviously have no concept of pack dynamics.

Yes, indeed I do understand pack dynamics. You just don’t seem to understand that in a society, the pack is way larger than just you and your immediate family.

And now I feel I must say the only thing that really fits in any conversation with you. **Curlcoat** , I know you are trying to do your best. _Bless your heart_.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2252 "2009-08-28T03:57:03Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Aw, it looks like the domain registration expired. ☹

Whoops. I hate when that happens.

[Fixed it.](http://www.12pointfont.com/images/temp/SDMBvenn.JPG)

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**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2253 "2009-08-28T06:20:02Z")

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Best Venn diagram ever. **MsWhatsit** wins the internets.

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2254 "2009-08-28T07:37:03Z")

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> [@stretch](#):
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> Listen, nitwit, no one said you were smart or that you could pick 'em.

Ah, another one that goes to insults when they can’t support their position! 😛 No, you did the opposite - you insinuated that I would have been dumb enough to settle for a sugar daddy. I pointed out that if I were that dumb, I’d have done it far before age 36, when I was no longer young, little and cute. And it does seem that even a stereotypical dumb blonde would be able to figure out that the more money a man makes, the better sugar daddy he will be.

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> No, you seem to think that only certain people deemed worthy by you should get help. I think you need to expand your monkey sphere beyond you, your husband, and your pets.

It is well beyond that.

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> Yes, indeed I do understand pack dynamics. You just don’t seem to understand that in a society, the pack is way larger than just you and your immediate family.

Sorry, you simply have no idea about pack dynamics, at least as they apply to canines. Do you have some fantasy that dogs/wolves rally around the weaker members of the pack and sacrifice for them?

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2255 "2009-08-28T14:47:45Z")

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God damn, curlcoat just doesn’t ever shut up, does she? You’d think six feet under would be a deep enough hole for most people.

> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> [Fixed it.](http://www.12pointfont.com/images/temp/SDMBvenn.JPG)

… Please to invent a way for a woman to impregnate a woman so you can have my babies. Kthx.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2256 "2009-08-28T18:13:45Z")

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I know **curlcoat** is kind of annoying, and says kinda stupid things, but… aren’t you guys maybe taking this a bit too far?

Nobody’s said anything new for like 46 pages other than curlcoat making up slightly new facts and everyone else finding semi-creative ways to call her a whore.

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**Author:** ![freedumb2003](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@freedumb2003](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freedumb2003)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2257 "2009-08-28T20:26:15Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Pssssst… When you have private health insurance, you’re paying for the health care of everyone else on the plan, too. The only difference is that when the government does it, they’re not out to make a profit.

The only difference is when the gummit does it, it is at the point of a gun. You CHOOSE to participate in a private health plan.

Those of us who love liberty (leaves you lefties out), believe in choice on wether to or not to use our dollars for what we want in our personal lives (so please spare me your stupid “I didn’t want to pay for Iraq”" meweing).

And remember, a camel is a mouse built to government specifications. Imagine a 3 trillion dollar mouse…

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2258 "2009-08-28T21:12:29Z")

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> [@freedumb2003](#):
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> Those of us who love liberty (leaves you lefties out), believe in choice on wether to or not to use our dollars for what we want in our personal lives (so please spare me your stupid “I didn’t want to pay for Iraq”" meweing).

Where in the Constitution are you guaranteed this libertopia? The Constitution quite specifically says the government has the power to collect taxes from you, and Congress has the power to spend that revenue to promote the general welfare of the nation. As for the the intent of the Founding Fathers, don’t forget that the ink was barely dry on the Constitution when President George Washington declared martial law, and personally commanded 12,000 troops to collect taxes in Pennsylvania. The Founding Fathers were not libertarians, so if that is what you are seeking, there is no reason to expect to find it in America.

You don’t love your liberty, you just love your money.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2259 "2009-08-28T22:01:33Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I know **curlcoat** is kind of annoying, and says kinda stupid things, but… aren’t you guys maybe taking this a bit too far?

She’s free to leave any time she likes. No one is forcing curlcoat to post in this thread or the Pit in general, and I would be nice as pie to her outside of this forum.

And she isn’t “kind of annoying” and she doesn’t say “kinda stupid things.” She is either \*\*breathtakingly \*\*willfully ignorant or a troll. There’s no “kind of” about it.

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/2260 "2009-08-29T00:04:00Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Nobody’s said anything new for like 46 pages other than curlcoat making up slightly new facts

Please cite where I’ve made anything up. (I know you won’t but as I’ve said, I enjoy pointing it out when people make things up about me.)

> [@Shot From Guns](#):
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> She’s free to leave any time she likes.

As can you.

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> No one is forcing curlcoat to post in this thread or the Pit in general,

No one is forcing you either.

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> and I would be nice as pie to her outside of this forum.

Well, that just makes you a hypocrite, among your other failings.

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> And she isn’t “kind of annoying” and she doesn’t say “kinda stupid things.” She is either breathtakingly willfully ignorant or a troll.

No, what I am is a person with opinions and facts that you don’t like, so your immature response is to try to force me to shut up and/or go away. Not only does that reflect badly upon you personally, it doesn’t do much for your side of the debate either.

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